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Fancy RP locations
Posted: 2008-08-15 18:44
by LimaTango
Today on [T&T] Tactics & Teamwork server I noticed that many people place their RPs outside the combat area or in treetops with the grappling hook.
Is this commonly accepted by the PR-community?
Re: Fancy RP locations
Posted: 2008-08-15 18:47
by Priby
If it´s the best way to hide your rallypoint.
Why not?
Re: Fancy RP locations
Posted: 2008-08-15 18:50
by Rudd
I don't like it personally, nor do I like it when RPs are placed in the air by various means, such as grapple hook in a tree.
why?
1) its taking advantage of game mechanics with no regard for realism, u wanna spawn in a non-combat area, spawn at main.
2) it doesnt necessarily give the squad an advantage, its just that you can't be bothered to find a good, well covered, hiding spot.
3) it makes it hard for the squad to get limited kits
Re: Fancy RP locations
Posted: 2008-08-15 18:53
by LimaTango
Dr2B Rudd wrote:I don't like it personally, nor do I like it when RPs are placed in the air by various means, such as grapple hook in a tree.
why?
1) its taking advantage of game mechanics with no regard for realism, u wanna spawn in a non-combat area, spawn at main.
2) it doesnt necessarily give the squad an advantage, its just that you can't be bothered to find a good, well covered, hiding spot.
3) it makes it hard for the squad to get limited kits
Word.
Re: Fancy RP locations
Posted: 2008-08-15 18:57
by PrivateJson
Agreed! Couldn't be nice if the RPs couldn't be place right at the "map border" outside the map, and in the trees? That's just plain stupid!
Re: Fancy RP locations
Posted: 2008-08-15 18:58
by cyberzomby
Agreed. I dont like it. Thats just one of the playstyles players use to WIN instead of having a good time with this game.
Outside combat area's? You mean like when you get the desserter warning?
Re: Fancy RP locations
Posted: 2008-08-15 19:05
by Hauler
Dr2B Rudd wrote:I don't like it personally, nor do I like it when RPs are placed in the air by various means, such as grapple hook in a tree.
why?
1) its taking advantage of game mechanics with no regard for realism, u wanna spawn in a non-combat area, spawn at main.
2) it doesnt necessarily give the squad an advantage, its just that you can't be bothered to find a good, well covered, hiding spot.
3) it makes it hard for the squad to get limited kits
How real is a rally point anyway? If this is to be truly real then do away with rallies altogether.
Re: Fancy RP locations
Posted: 2008-08-15 19:14
by Rudd
I wouldn't mind RPs being removed all together, proper hardcore
They are a gameplay facilitator, not a realistic asset, but with the advent of the Bunker and firebase (especially with the announced changes to the bunker system) the RP isn't really needed. BUT! if it is going to be used, I'd prefer it was used in the most realistic capacity it can.
Re: Fancy RP locations
Posted: 2008-08-15 19:23
by Tirak
I agree with the idea that you shouldn't be able to place rally's out of bounds, but in trees seems reasonable to me, make it so you can shoot rallys and it's fine.
Re: Fancy RP locations
Posted: 2008-08-15 19:28
by opshadow47
In reality a RP should be more of a position to get kits and rearm from, maybe even set up a couple minor defense positions around like a sandbag. Removing them as a spawn point would further force tactics and give more incentive to shy away from the pointless endless waves of cannon fodder.
Re: Fancy RP locations
Posted: 2008-08-15 19:51
by General_J0k3r
Tirak wrote:I agree with the idea that you shouldn't be able to place rally's out of bounds, but in trees seems reasonable to me, make it so you can shoot rallys and it's fine.
you CAN shoot rallies

Re: Fancy RP locations
Posted: 2008-08-15 20:01
by Airsoft
Well if a rally is placed out of bounds you can usually take it out. Only approve on small maps.
Re: Fancy RP locations
Posted: 2008-08-15 20:14
by xgayox
Hauler wrote:How real is a rally point anyway? If this is to be truly real then do away with rallies altogether.
Here we go

Re: Fancy RP locations
Posted: 2008-08-15 20:21
by Spec
Werent there even plans about removing them?
However, I disagree with placing them in trees and outside of the combat area. Not for realism, but for gameplay. That is a bug. They are not supposed to be placed there. Shooting them is loud, and placing them in a tree in a small map like OGT is somewhat unfair.
But, uhm... hasnt there been a thread about this some time ago? Ending up in flames?
Re: Fancy RP locations
Posted: 2008-08-15 20:30
by Waaah_Wah
Why not?
Re: Fancy RP locations
Posted: 2008-08-15 20:40
by youm0nt
Yeah, why not? It's fair game. Any squad leader on any team can do it...
Re: Fancy RP locations
Posted: 2008-08-15 20:51
by WildBill1337
what kind of idiot would put the rp in a tree? why would you do that. by doing that you make it so your squad cant get limited kits.
Re: Fancy RP locations
Posted: 2008-08-15 20:57
by White Rock
youm0nt wrote:Yeah, why not? It's fair game. Any squad leader on any team can do it...
The same reason many players dont like sucide jeeps, medic death/revive plummet, reduced spawn times and instant switch tanks.
Because its a bug that's not intended and that it can be exploited for unfair gameplay. The only fairness would be if everyone did it, would you really want that?
Do you think the game would be more fun if every single squad on a server placed a rally in a tree/reduced their spawn time to defend/insantswitched apcs so they can have more infantry?

Re: Fancy RP locations
Posted: 2008-08-15 20:57
by Masaq
I need to try this sometime, just for giggles:
Take an officer's kit.
Load up a Merlin with squad members.
Have the copilot drop the ramp.
Have the pilot hover
very very steadily.
From the F7 seat, exit the Merlin so I'm standing inside.
Stand near the ramp.
Drop a rallypoint on the ramp...
...and have the pilot fly off.
Voilá, RP in the sky

Re: Fancy RP locations
Posted: 2008-08-15 21:03
by SGT.JOKER
Yeah up in tree's isnt good at all. Ive seen them outside the map border but those are still easy to take out. Its really just a disadvantage to the squad, if its far enough outside the combat area youll stary to bleed, so what if you dont have a medic? What if you need a LAT or grenaider when your RP's up in a tree? See, just a disadvantage. If it does really bother you take the RP out with explosives or camp it till they give up.
Hauler wrote:then do away with rallies altogether.
Wash your mouth out with soap!