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So we can't have increased draw distance because people have crappy computers?
Posted: 2008-08-16 19:50
by unrealalex
Or is there some other reason? I think it would be so much better if draw distance was increased, at least by a quarter. If someone has performance issues, can't they just turn down their draw distance in the graphics options?
From that poll, most people play on high and medium, don't think anyone on medium-high would have performance problems.
Increasing the draw distance would bring a whole lot more reality to the game I think. I'm not saying increase it all the way, just maybe a quarter more, or 15% more, so we can actually shoot people at ranges our rifles are still effective at.
Re: So we can't have increased draw distance because people have crappy computers?
Posted: 2008-08-16 19:52
by LtSoucy
It would bring lag no matter what. Its great how it is.
Re: So we can't have increased draw distance because people have crappy computers?
Posted: 2008-08-16 19:53
by unrealalex
LtSoucy wrote:It would bring lag no matter what. Its great how it is.
Have you tried it? I doubt 15-25% increase would bring a lot of lag. Plus lag is when the server is communicating with your computer slower, and correct me if I'm wrong, but the server doesn't actually draw the map, hence why most servers don't have $500 graphics cards. If by lag you mean performance issues on people's computers, then people could turn down their draw distance in their options.
Re: So we can't have increased draw distance because people have crappy computers?
Posted: 2008-08-16 19:55
by m0jo
LtSoucy wrote:It would bring lag no matter what.
Server-side lag or client-side lag ?
Re: So we can't have increased draw distance because people have crappy computers?
Posted: 2008-08-16 19:57
by LtSoucy
The more files that must be sent from the person's computer to the server will take longer to get both ways, causing lag to the player.Its also been disscussed alot before.
Re: So we can't have increased draw distance because people have crappy computers?
Posted: 2008-08-16 20:01
by unrealalex
How does increased draw distance mean more files are sent from person's computer?
Re: So we can't have increased draw distance because people have crappy computers?
Posted: 2008-08-16 20:08
by Mora
More files? The only thing that is send to the server is the status of you, meaning where you are, what you do and what you drive/fly. Just information. View distance or draw distance has nothing to do with it.
Re: So we can't have increased draw distance because people have crappy computers?
Posted: 2008-08-16 20:19
by waldo_ii
If you have a longer draw distance, the client needs more information from the server on what is out there. It is my understanding that the client doesn't ask for information unless it is inside the draw distance.
Re: So we can't have increased draw distance because people have crappy computers?
Posted: 2008-08-16 20:31
by Priby
what about the things outside the draw distance?
I tought your getting information about them, even if you cant see them.
Re: So we can't have increased draw distance because people have crappy computers?
Posted: 2008-08-16 20:35
by T.Parker
Priby pwnd u all i think ...
Re: So we can't have increased draw distance because people have crappy computers?
Posted: 2008-08-16 21:00
by Deadfast
unrealalex wrote:can't they just turn down their draw distance in the graphics options?
Of course they can.
In exchange for getting shot by invisible enemies

Re: So we can't have increased draw distance because people have crappy computers?
Posted: 2008-08-16 21:09
by Spec
Deadfast wrote:Of course they can.
In exchange for getting shot by invisible enemies
Quote of the day.... thread... thread.
It would be unfair. Sure, the Dev's cant make sure that a 10 years old PC can still run PR, but it shouldnt require a system that can run crysis on max.
Re: So we can't have increased draw distance because people have crappy computers?
Posted: 2008-08-16 21:18
by Oddsodz
Spec_Operator wrote:Quote of the day.... thread... thread.
It would be unfair. Sure, the Dev's cant make sure that a 10 years old PC can still run PR, but it shouldnt require a system that can run crysis on max.
Why not? The better the game. The more will come to play.
But I don't think it is a thing that the DEV can change. It's most likely a BF2 Engine issue and can not be changed. But I don't know as I don't code.
I also don't see that need for this anyway. Game is fine in that department anyway.
Re: So we can't have increased draw distance because people have crappy computers?
Posted: 2008-08-16 21:22
by Mora
waldo_ii wrote:If you have a longer draw distance, the client needs more information from the server on what is out there. It is my understanding that the client doesn't ask for information unless it is inside the draw distance.
Afaik the server only sends the status of things to you. The server doesn't load the map like we do... and we don't load of the server. Only download packets of information of other players and objects.
Re: So we can't have increased draw distance because people have crappy computers?
Posted: 2008-08-16 22:22
by baptist_christian
Oddsodz wrote:Why not? The better the game. The more will come to play.
But I don't think it is a thing that the DEV can change. It's most likely a BF2 Engine issue and can not be changed. But I don't know as I don't code.
I also don't see that need for this anyway. Game is fine in that department anyway.
you haven't played ARMA have you? the draw distances kick PR's ***.
Re: So we can't have increased draw distance because people have crappy computers?
Posted: 2008-08-16 22:32
by Deadfast
baptist_christian wrote:you haven't played ARMA have you? the draw distances kick PR's ***.
Have you played Crysis?
The graphics kick Duke3D's ***.
The point is that you can't compare incomparable

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Re: So we can't have increased draw distance because people have crappy computers?
Posted: 2008-08-16 23:11
by akatabrask
I think it's fine as it is, the common soldier wouldn't fight at distances grater than 3-400m and afaik the draw distance is greater than that on all maps - I have never got into a situation where it has been bothering me.
The only people I could see getting the advandtage of greater draw distance are people with a high zoom (ie snipers, tanks and helis, and possibly jets) and they allready have all the advantages they could get so it wouldn't be fair if they got more.
Re: So we can't have increased draw distance because people have crappy computers?
Posted: 2008-08-17 01:54
by Sanke
I say increase it, if your comp can't max pr then you should upgrade it or trash it. The bf2 engine is so old and easy to max
Re: So we can't have increased draw distance because people have crappy computers?
Posted: 2008-08-17 01:56
by jim1994
lol....my **** Dell cant handle BF2 XDD
i play on all low and get 20-80 FPS
Re: So we can't have increased draw distance because people have crappy computers?
Posted: 2008-08-17 02:50
by TF6049
Yeah he did. Otherwise hacks wouldn't work.