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Hover Button for attack helo's?
Posted: 2008-08-17 20:51
by Boommelonshot
I think that a hover button should be added to the helicopters so it can make the gunners more efficient! I think there is a hover button in ARMA.
Re: Hover Button for attack helo's?
Posted: 2008-08-17 21:09
by tupla_s
It's not that hard to hover without any fancy buttons. Just stop and level it, it hovers by itself. Only requires tap on w ones in a while to keep the altitude. Go practice on local server and you'll see how easy it is.
Re: Hover Button for attack helo's?
Posted: 2008-08-17 21:13
by Ragni<RangersPL>
tupla_s wrote:It's not that hard to hover without any fancy buttons. Just stop and level it, it hovers by itself. Only requires tap on w ones in a while to keep the altitude. Go practice on local server and you'll see how easy it is.
+1
There's no need for hover magic buttons in PR

Re: Hover Button for attack helo's?
Posted: 2008-08-17 21:48
by Smegburt_funkledink
Although gunner stabilizers have been looked into...
This is where the last conversation on attack helo gunner stabilizers went:
[R-DEV]Mosquill wrote:But I've tried! I was working on it for weeks, and I failed. Stabilization is still very bugged. It's not difficult to put it on choppers, but it doesn't help much anyway.
Re: Hover Button for attack helo's?
Posted: 2008-08-17 23:34
by Mora
Well last time i spoke to [R-DEV]Mosquill and that is not too long ago he said he would talk to the [R-DEV]Flyboy about it, cant remember his name sorry..
Me and alex6714 had a test with it. It worked quite well not too good but it helped

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Re: Hover Button for attack helo's?
Posted: 2008-08-18 12:04
by Chanvlan
that would be an awsome idea can we get [R-DEV]Mosquill to tell us about it? is it going to happen or not?
Re: Hover Button for attack helo's?
Posted: 2008-08-18 12:24
by Smegburt_funkledink
Mora wrote:Well last time i spoke to [R-DEV]Mosquill and that is not too long ago he said he would talk to the [R-DEV]Flyboy about it, cant remember his name sorry..
Me and alex6714 had a test with it. It worked quite well not too good but it helped

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Worked quite well?? Not too good??
On a scale of 0-10, 0 being the current no-stabilizer, 10 being ultra stable & realistic, how would you say it was?
Surely even a little help from something like this'll be worth it, no?
Re: Hover Button for attack helo's?
Posted: 2008-08-18 12:36
by markonymous
well seeing as how its the hovering part that gets you killed i think we need better gun stabilization instead of this. But if gun stabilization isn't possible hell i'l take this better then nothing.
BTW sis you guys hear that the lock-om range for an AA is gonna be 2 km now? its insane i wonder if they are gonna balance it somehow or just once again cripple air vehicles.
Re: Hover Button for attack helo's?
Posted: 2008-08-18 13:11
by Drav
in my opinion a hover button is a bad idea....helicopters are hands on machines!
Im with marko, gun or view stabilisation, not autohover....
Re: Hover Button for attack helo's?
Posted: 2008-08-18 13:12
by Spaz
Why take away the little skill you need to fly the helicopters? Just train and you will be able to hover with no problem.
Re: Hover Button for attack helo's?
Posted: 2008-08-18 13:43
by Mora
Sgt.Smeg wrote:Worked quite well?? Not too good??
On a scale of 0-10, 0 being the current no-stabilizer, 10 being ultra stable & realistic, how would you say it was?
Surely even a little help from something like this'll be worth it, no?
Well about 5 out of 10 because you will probably still need to hover to get the shot. Think about it as a shock-absorber you get a more smooth screen.

Re: Hover Button for attack helo's?
Posted: 2008-08-18 17:16
by frrankosuave
How about a "Land" button for jets?
Re: Hover Button for attack helo's?
Posted: 2008-08-18 17:22
by Mora
You basically can make a macro (yes a macro) to always make a good liftoff. But whats the fun with that.
Re: Hover Button for attack helo's?
Posted: 2008-08-18 18:33
by Smegburt_funkledink
Mora wrote:Well about 5 out of 10 because you will probably still need to hover to get the shot. Think about it as a shock-absorber you get a more smooth screen.
Sounds good to me, I think I may have seen a vid...Mosquill had a kinda interest, How far did DEV talks go? When you remember [R-DEV]Flyboys hame, I'd love to hear what they thought of the tests. I'd love to have a go myself.
I'm guessing a 'hover button' isn't possible and were kinda hi-jacking this thread, I'm gonna go dig up that last discussion...
Re: Hover Button for attack helo's?
Posted: 2008-08-18 19:28
by Mora
Well:
Re: Stabilization
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mora
Thanks mate it seems to work and it really helps. Of course we still cant do sort of drive bys but it helps quite a bit. Is this considered to implant in future releases? or 0.8? I don't see any down sides on it.
[R-DEV]Mosquill:
Well we weren't going to implement it... but since you're saying it helps.. I guess I'll talk to Cas about it, maybe we'll use it after all.
So he would talk about it with [R-DEV]CAS_117 the one i meant.
I dont know what they did with it.
But here's the file try it for your self
put it into: mods\pr\objects\objects_server_patch.zip\vehicles\ air\ahe_ah1z (replace the original)
But you will need someone to host a local game because it wont work on your own local server..
Try it with Hamachi.
Re: Hover Button for attack helo's?
Posted: 2008-08-18 22:22
by turnpipe
Thats weird why wont it work on a local server?
Edit:never mind you need a pilot to be a gunner in pr.
Re: Hover Button for attack helo's?
Posted: 2008-08-18 23:00
by AnRK
Spaz wrote:Why take away the little skill you need to fly the helicopters? Just train and you will be able to hover with no problem.
Oh it's started it's started!
Flame war!!!

Re: Hover Button for attack helo's?
Posted: 2008-08-19 12:08
by Mora
turnpipe wrote:Thats weird why wont it work on a local server?
Edit:never mind you need a pilot to be a gunner in pr.
No it wont work. Stabilization wont work on your own local server. If you join someone else's local server it would work just fine. I know strange bug...

Re: Hover Button for attack helo's?
Posted: 2008-08-19 12:16
by +SiN+headhunter
We want it to be hard to fly not easy.
Or everyone will be wanting to fly
Re: Hover Button for attack helo's?
Posted: 2008-08-19 19:46
by Outlawz7
It's already too easy, I fly like once in two months on PR and can still perfectly hover and do tons of random tricks and I only use my keyboard+mouse.