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I've watched over 20 Project Reality videos but not one was a sniping video. I love sniping, I am ranked 65 in the world with the Morretti in Battlefield 2142. Sniper kit is all I use ever... I was just wondering if you guys had anything special for snipers... like realistic ghille suits... and stuff

Is PR sniper friendly?
Short answer: No.
Long answer: It's all about teamwork. Snipers can be very effective at tracking enemy movement and taking out priority targets, but if you just want to grab a sniper kit and start killing random troops, you're probably going to get kicked out of any good squad.
Why?
Well, snipers and special forces in PR are often requested by players who dont intend to use teamwork. In an regular infantry squad, or even vehicle squad, snipers are just not needed.

That doesnt mean you cant be a sniper in PR. But you need a good squad and good commander to do so.

Never ever join a normal squad and request a sniper kit. This will get you kicked from the squad. The best thing is to make an own squad with a few buddies, have a plan and work hand in hand with the commander. Make sure to have a spotter and maybe a seconds sniper/spotter team in the squad, perhaps you can even include a heavy anti tank unit. Then you will be a good tool for the commander.

But if you want to go out and kill people, select a Rifleman kit and stick with the squad.

Well i cant speak for 0.8 which (fingers crossed) is imminent but in 0.75 opinions vary on the effectiveness of the sniper kit. For a start the majortiy of foliage dosnt draw at distance making the ghillie suit pretty useless and depending on which rifle your using the deviation varies quite alot. I wouldnt worry though cos 0.8 should fix alot of things.

Snipers in PR are used more more Recon than killing.

The only way to be a good sniper is to hide somewhere where you can observe enemy troop movements and report them to the commander via VOIP. You should only ever fire off a few rounds each match, to take out important things like gunners on .50 cals etc.

Because if you try and shoot too often, the enemy will quickly work out your location, and kill you, at which point you have to wait 10 minutes or so for your sniper kit.

Oh, yes, the deviation is a problem right now too. It takes you a good 3 seconds of no mouse movement till you are really accurate, but that'll be fixed in the 0.8 version which will be released soon.

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Snipers in pr work completely different to most other games. If you just try to play lonewolf uberl33t you are likely to quickly find yourself catching enemy bullets with your face. Snipers in pr are expected to work with a spotter as recon element first sharpshooters second as they do in real life. So the name of the game is sneaking around gathering Intel for your team (e.g. enemy tanks trying to flank the team) rather than owning those n00bs.

ok ok guys thats enuf flaming lets not make the guy run away from PR, listen mate PR is a great game but you jsut gotta understand that it is alot different from the original BF2 and not many people around here like people who use the sniper kit and think they are 1337. Now maybe you are, but just learn to play the game first and then when you have learnt the game and the ways of it then go grab the sniper kit and try and do the real life stuff with the sniper.

Ok i think everyone should stop flaming this guy now, he gets the point.

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Said simply, only fire when you have a 120% good shot on something and change location everyone once in a while.

If you go sit on top of the biggest hill on the map and fire down like an idiot you won't kill anything and you'll just give away your position to everyone on the server.

everyone forget to mention that the sniper kit is extremely limited. its either 1 or 2 kits per team depending on how big the team is. so if your love in life is sniping your gonna have a hard time with PR because just getting the kit can be difficult sometimes. the sniper has its place in the game like mentioned in the previous posts, its just not the way your probably used to. i dont use the kit often, but when i do i probably only fire my gun a handful of times. if your a good sniper in PR, your probably using your radio more as a weapon than the rifle.

what i would suggest however, is using the marksman kit instead. its considered a much more valuable kit to a squad, since you still have to stick with your squad because of its shorter range optics. but its a more accurate rifle, and youl be using it more often so maybe thats more your cup of tea.

don't listen to the people saying that you can't kill people or that you shouldn't request a sniper kit in a squad unless you've had a long discussion about tactics.

i've casually requested the sniper kit when in a squad (when marksman has been unavailable) and done great with my squad. people won't ***** at you for requesting it, telling you that other people need it. they're just happy if you can spot and take out targets when they are under fire.

but what is important, like someone above said, is that you are not supposed to fire as much as vanilla/2142.

The sniper has a couple of big advantages in PR though.

1) People expect it less. When there are only 2 snipers on the opposing team, you won't be expecting a sniper as much as you would in vanilla BF2 where sometimes half the team is one (or was when I still played that)
2) People tend to move around less. If you move, your accuracy drops like a brick, so people stay still when firing, which means you can get a good shot in.
3) People often move around in groups and towards pre-determined positions. If there are only 2 places that can be captured you can expect enemies to go there (no more whack-a-mole)

I would like to point out that would draws me to PR is that you can't just Click - Click - Click - Click, you have to think and communicate. Sure I get around 60-70 kills in bf2142 with the sniper kit but I don't want that anymore, I want something new. I gladly take 6-10 kills and work with my teamates than just shooting all game.

Snipers in pr work completely different to most other games. If you just try to play lonewolf uberl33t you are likely to quickly find yourself catching enemy bullets with your face. Snipers in pr are expected to work with a spotter as recon element first sharpshooters second as they do in real life. So the name of the game is sneaking around gathering Intel for your team (e.g. enemy tanks trying to flank the team) rather than owning those n00bs.[/QUOTE]

I don't want to be able to play "lonewolf uberl33t" anymore (lol). "Snipers in pr are expected to work with a spotter as recon element first sharpshooters second as they do in real life" I am pretty well informed on how USMC Sniper units work being that my brother is one and has done tours in Haditha, Iraq. It'd be cool to simulate what goes on and is said between a sniper and his spotter.

Chanvlan wrote:ok ok guys thats enuf flaming lets not make the guy run away from PR, listen mate PR is a great game but you jsut gotta understand that it is alot different from the original BF2 and not many people around here like people who use the sniper kit

Ok i think everyone should stop flaming this guy now, he gets the point.

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No, I am not offended in the least. Don't worry I am really attracted to PR, I don't think I am going anywhere fast.


How does the whole request a kit work though?


PS:

Emnyron wrote:I think Ive made my point.

I'd perfer if ******** would say the fuck away from my posts thxkbai.

I had an experience with it today on that
I tried to shoot and keep steady, and i still couldnt hit a dang .50 cal from 590 meters out ._. or feet.. whatever...

i still suck at sniping XD so sniping isn't for everyone. Each kit gets a great new advantage in PR too, such as Officer kits. You can build stuff if your a squad leader or commander... nothing better than destroying a humvee with a command post too haha

How does the whole request a kit work though?

I'll point it out, but i strongly suggest reading every bit of the manual if you want the full experience.

Kit system works like this:
You can spawn with one of 5 kits: Officer (you can only select this one as squad leader or commander), Rifleman with Optics, Rifleman without Optics, Medic and Engineer.

After spawning, you can go to certain locations (for the sniper kit, this is pretty much limited to the main base and bunkers/firebases) and request a kit by pressing T and selecting "request kit" and then the kit you'd like to have. The kit you selected will then spawn at your feet. You then just press G to pick it up and you have the new kit.

Those kits are limited though, this means that when you lose the sniper kit, you have to wait a long time until a new one can be requested, unless the second sniper kit wasnt already taken.

The thing is just that often the kits are taken already and (imo) you have to find a good squad to do that, because many SL's dont like to see snipers in their squads. Look out for specialised sniper squads, create an own squad or ask your squadleader if he wants a sniper. If not, go for marksman or whatever the SL needs.

Spec_Operator wrote:I'll point it out, but i strongly suggest reading every bit of the manual if you want the full experience.

Could you link me to a "Manual"? Sorry if its easy access I am just a little lazy for searching

Expatriate Gamer wrote: I'd perfer if ******** would say the fuck away from my posts thxkbai.

Wow keep cool.

Im just wondering why you dont find any siper videos from PR. If just wrote sniper project reality and got 45 results.

Expatriate Gamer wrote:Could you link me to a "Manual"? Sorry if its easy access I am just a little lazy for searching

You'll get it on your desktop after downloading PR.

I just looked for the downloadable manuals here on the site but they dont seem to work for some reason (?)

LithiumFox wrote:I had an experience with it today on that
I tried to shoot and keep steady, and i still couldnt hit a dang .50 cal from 590 meters out ._. or feet.. whatever...

i still suck at sniping XD so sniping isn't for everyone. Each kit gets a great new advantage in PR too, such as Officer kits. You can build stuff if your a squad leader or commander... nothing better than destroying a humvee with a command post too haha

It's meters

On Topic:
If you're looking to snipe, you may want to wait until .8, the current sniping system, as others have said, has a flaw in it where you can't move your mouse or the shot will be wildly inaccurate. As of right now, the DMRs are the better gun, even for long distance shooting despite the lower zoom.

*Tirak's Insane Logic*

My advice is to work with the Rifleman Optics until you get a good feel for that, move up to the Marksman until you get a real good handle on that then try out Spec Ops, get a good feel for that then go Sniper.

Rifleman Optics gives you your base, the shooting system in PR is much different when compared to BF2 and BF2142, by practicing with optics you gain a better understanding of the system and will make you an overall better player.

Marksman is the next step up, you're nolonger using a weapon that can blast away on full auto or burst if you need to (Brit Marksman of course being the exception). The rifle has better accuracy but a smaller magazine. Using this kit teaches superior accuracy conquers many bullets and can give you the fundamentals of finding good positions and trains that "Sniper Eye" in finding good spots and targets.

Spec Ops may seem like a departure from building up your long range skills, but it teaches concealment and recon work. Spec Ops are much lamented as noob kits and it takes the very objective to use them well. As a spec Ops, you'll have no choice but to hide in most situations if you want to be effective, and if you frequent one server, you eventually build a reputation with some commanders as being reliable, which helps out when you try to play Recon.

Finally, the prize. The Sniper Kit is a difficult to use kit correctly, you have a powerful long range rifle that (if used correctly) could pick off a flys wings, but you should not want to use it. Snipers in PR are recon specialists first, and shooters second. If you follow my insane logic, you'll have pinpoint accuracy and be skilled at evading detection too, plus you'll learn all kinds of new tricks when it comes to cover that may not have been useful as a Spec Ops (Refer to the Sniper Manuals in the Infantry Tactics Section).

Tirak wrote:It's meters
*Tirak's Insane Logic*

Its not that Insane. I agree and I've pointed out before I am perfectly fine with just spotting targets and getting only a few kills a game.

hall0 wrote:Wow keep cool.

Im just wondering why you dont find any siper videos from PR. If just wrote sniper project reality and got 45 results.

I am cool as a cucumber buddy. I searched Vimeo not youtube.