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Getting Rid Of Team-kill Notification

Posted: 2008-08-25 14:52
by Meester
In PR you you don't know which enemy player killed you, so why are you notified which of your temamates kills you?

In war you don't get any notification on who is killing you unless someone spots them. Removing teamkill notifications might make a team more cautious and take their time in making a kill.

As for people who team-kill on purpose, they can still be spotted and no team-kill notification might make them stop team-killing on purpose since they will get nothing to their name showing up on screen for all to see.
They will not get the attention that they crave.

The main reason is to make PR more realistic - you got rid of enemy killing notification, so why not team-killing notification too?

Re: Getting Rid Of Team-kill Notification

Posted: 2008-08-25 14:56
by gazzthompson
yea , now i cant admin my clan server when the enemy team mass tk each other in main base and i see in chat all sorts of people complaining about tks but dont know who to believe because i cant see any tks.

tbh this is worst idea ive heard in along while. admin nightmare

Re: Getting Rid Of Team-kill Notification

Posted: 2008-08-25 14:56
by Outlawz7
Meester wrote:In PR you you don't know which enemy player killed you, so why are you notified which of your temamates kills you?

In war you don't get any notification on who is killing you unless someone spots them. Removing teamkill notifications might make a team more cautious and take their time in making a kill.
Yes because grievers are really cautious when teamkilling their team en masse.
Haven't thought of this did you?

Re: Getting Rid Of Team-kill Notification

Posted: 2008-08-25 14:57
by Rudd
No, Gazz is right. ingame Admins need to be able to see the teamkill notification

Re: Getting Rid Of Team-kill Notification

Posted: 2008-08-25 15:17
by Clypp
This was removed in 0.3 IIRC. It led to smacktards TKing like crazy and nobody knew who was doing it.

Re: Getting Rid Of Team-kill Notification

Posted: 2008-08-25 15:22
by SleepyHe4d
gazzthompson wrote: tbh this is worst idea ive heard in along while.
That. What was the OP thinking? :(

Re: Getting Rid Of Team-kill Notification

Posted: 2008-08-25 15:51
by Masaq
Guys, constructive comments only please, even if they're negative. Just calling the OP stupid or whatever won't help anybody.

Re: Getting Rid Of Team-kill Notification

Posted: 2008-08-25 16:04
by markonymous
if you delay it until the player respawns like with the points? otherwise i think it wouldnt work.

Re: Getting Rid Of Team-kill Notification

Posted: 2008-08-25 16:44
by Gore
I have to agree, this thread wasn't given many thoughts by thread starter.

Re: Getting Rid Of Team-kill Notification

Posted: 2008-08-25 16:53
by Brummy
Maybe only messages in the bottom left corner like You must JOIN A SQUAD, This kit is not available etc. Just show a message, You were teamkilled by MrD.

Re: Getting Rid Of Team-kill Notification

Posted: 2008-08-25 17:34
by Bringerof_D
how about, onloy the TKed get a message and the TKer doesnt

Re: Getting Rid Of Team-kill Notification

Posted: 2008-08-25 17:55
by EOD_Security-2252
I like the notification, it's nice.

Re: Getting Rid Of Team-kill Notification

Posted: 2008-08-25 18:03
by CodeRedFox
This is a....different kinda request. Team-killing notification is like reporting an error. I see your point, but it doesn't help when an error has join the server.

Re: Getting Rid Of Team-kill Notification

Posted: 2008-08-25 18:28
by Phoenix.86
Bringerof_D wrote:how about, onloy the TKed get a message and the TKer doesnt
Doubt this would work either... most tk's i do accidentally are when im turning my tank turret, moving my tank/vehicle etc. without the tk message i probably would often not even notice and hence not excuse. Now add one and one together and here you are punish-heaven.

Re: Getting Rid Of Team-kill Notification

Posted: 2008-08-25 19:08
by Meester
[R-DEV]coderedfox wrote:This is a....different kinda request. Team-killing notification is like reporting an error. I see your point, but it doesn't help when an error has join the server.
In a way a team-kill notification is immersion breaking. A team-mate accidently snipes you from whatever distance and you knew automatically it was him. Could be an accident or could be deliberate. You cannot always tell in warafre who is firing at whom.

Maybe it could be that only if you are looking at the person who teamkills you it shows up on the screen, maybe only the commander could see it or/and admins.

Re: Getting Rid Of Team-kill Notification

Posted: 2008-08-25 19:23
by gazzthompson
fact is, i wanna see for myself who is tking as i admin the server

Re: Getting Rid Of Team-kill Notification

Posted: 2008-08-25 19:29
by Sadist_Cain
Though looong and hard about this one, It would be a complete admin nightmare...

The only way I could invision it working would be to.... whilest typing this I figured out that wouldn't work...

Ok take two... Only way this could work is if whilest an admin is on the server he gets notified however I think that'd be impossible to code...

Also when Admins aren't around the common player cant go to the forums reporting a TKing raging moron with a screenshot of the offence (which happens often)

I like where you're coming from with your idea but it'd be too difficult to implement well with the limits of the admin systemand would add very very minimal change to immersion and gameplay at what would ultimately be a greater cost to overall gameplay

Re: Getting Rid Of Team-kill Notification

Posted: 2008-08-25 19:46
by Alex6714
I have to say with all the due respect that this idea fails. In a perfect world it would be great, but we do not live or play in a perfect world. ;-)

Re: Getting Rid Of Team-kill Notification

Posted: 2008-08-26 01:30
by jOHNNYdOUBE
Jonny had a good idea.
Or just limit the kit request for X TK's for X minutes, like killing a civie.
Then if 4 TK's, the guy dies and spawns, at main.