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hey folks, just curious if it is possible to implament this into the game. i know that for 2 guys to operate armor they need to be in the same squad (correct me if i am wrong). I have been playing PR for a number of years now, and since the into of "being in a squad to get your Uber sniper kit" is there a way in game to kill the guys that jump into your squad long enough to grab thier favorite kit and leave just as fast as they joined (much like the tank and you leave the squad)? this issue leads to more locked squads, and on servers that inforce squad play or be kicked i find it is a pain in the arse.

Actually I have no idea what you are asking. Explain?

He's talking about the random guys that join a squad just to request a kit (like Sniper) and then leave it to wander off on their own.

It should disable your ability to shoot/ switch weapons until you join a squad.

if i am not mistaken, in order to operate armor you need to be in the same squad as your partner. now i guess my question is..... can a sqaud kits be made that you need to be in the squad that your requested it from. and once you leave with said kit.. can there be a code to kill you out right and return the kit that was hijacked back to its squad?

this is not about snipers. i have absolutly no use for them. this is for the the kits out there that do all the dirty work that an infantry squad uses ( support grenadier, and so on).

[R-PUB]bosco wrote:He's talking about the random guys that join a squad just to request a kit (like Sniper) and then leave it to wander off on their own.

I knew that one, just didn't know what he wants changed

'[DVB wrote: Avalon.ca;780759']if i am not mistaken, in order to operate armor you need to be in the same squad as your partner. now i guess my question is..... can a sqaud kits be made that you need to be in the squad that your requested it from. and once you leave with said kit.. can there be a code to kill you out right and return the kit that was hijacked back to its squad?

this is not about snipers. i have absolutly no use for them. this is for the the kits out there that do all the dirty work that an infantry squad uses ( support grenadier, and so on).

Doubt that this is codable, but it might be. Anyone with insight? Although this could potentially lead to problems with kicking ppl I guess. I smell abuse

Happens quite often, people join the squad, request a kit, leave the squad. It wouldn't bother me but its normally a kit we need such as auto-rifleman or grenadier.

There is a 2 minute wait time when you first join a squad. You cannot request a kit until you have been in that squad for 2 minutes. This has been in since v0.7

In those 2 minutes, the squad leader should be getting a comms check with the new recruit, and getting him sorted with his kit.

If the squad leader fails to do this, then the squad is probably **** anyways.

If the squad member does not listen to the squad leader or does not respond, he gets the boot, and he does not have time to request the kit.

In either case, I dont see big issue. I guess something could be coded but it would be a helluva time to code, when we'd rather be working on fast ropes

So is there something else that Im overlooking here?

IIRC the two minute wait doesn't apply if you haven't spawned/died before.

but you can't die if they kicked you from the squad... only if you left =/

[R-DEV]fuzzhead wrote:So is there something else that Im overlooking here?

He means at the start of the round or when a new player joins the game, when there is no 2 minute delay.

I think they mean in the begining of the roun? its the only time Ive seen it done anwyas

[R-DEV]fuzzhead wrote:There is a 2 minute wait time when you first join a squad. You cannot request a kit until you have been in that squad for 2 minutes. This has been in since v0.7

In those 2 minutes, the squad leader should be getting a comms check with the new recruit, and getting him sorted with his kit.

If the squad leader fails to do this, then the squad is probably **** anyways.

If the squad member does not listen to the squad leader or does not respond, he gets the boot, and he does not have time to request the kit.

In either case, I dont see big issue. I guess something could be coded but it would be a helluva time to code, when we'd rather be working on fast ropes

So is there something else that Im overlooking here?

perhaps fuzz this might be a server side issue more than a pr issue, but there are plenty of "players" out there that disregard the rules of the game. and as pr has strived for the best game play possible, this in my mind is no different than one maning a tank or apc. i know thats a little more important than fast ropes.
PR has ( for as long as i played ) driven for a more team work orintated gaming experience. this is no differnet than the origanal idea to limit kits in the first place. had i wanted to make a thread about fast ropes i would have. if you truely belive in the spirit of teamwork, and have promoted the whole idea of limiting certian kits to forward this goal. than perhaps simple "we will look into the issue" weather or not you do it would have surficed. this is nothing more than a symptom of the Kit Limiting Idea. and if you have gone this far with it, i belive its an issues that should not be ignored. there is at least a quarter of any server population that participates in this sort of game play. and it dose more harm than spawning on a squad leader, to the whole concept of PR.

Situation we had a few days ago: Buddy opens up a squad, locks instantly to invite us, then opens up the squad some randoms join in. He gives out the kits he'd like us to use and says "Basically anything but sniper goes". Now what does one of the randoms do? requests a sniper kit and leaves the squad... thank god for having an admin in our squad that didn't like this at all and kicked said random for interrupting gameplay. That all happened at the start of the round and even with waiting time, the sl couldn't have sorted him out since he seemed totally unsuspicious, responding etc. Nothing you can do about it unless you have an admin present in the squad who notices such behaviour.

[R-DEV]fuzzhead wrote:
So is there something else that Im overlooking here?

yap. the beginning of the round. i had guys that agreed to take a kit assigned, then spawned, got the sniper and left the squad. not a good idea to piss off an admin like that though...

Phoenix.86 wrote:Situation we had a few days ago: Buddy opens up a squad, locks instantly to invite us, then opens up the squad some randoms join in. He gives out the kits he'd like us to use and says "Basically anything but sniper goes". Now what does one of the randoms do? requests a sniper kit and leaves the squad... thank god for having an admin in our squad that didn't like this at all and kicked said random for interrupting gameplay. That all happened at the start of the round and even with waiting time, the sl couldn't have sorted him out since he seemed totally unsuspicious, responding etc. Nothing you can do about it unless you have an admin present in the squad who notices such behaviour.

uh
i already posted this in another thread but ill post again

quote from the OFFICIAL PR MANUAL:

[...]
Snipers:
Remarks: works alone or with a spotter

right, now that we know this, how am i supposed to get the kit without having a spotter ??? i could get one of course, but lets assume nobody volunteers ??

just offering an objective view, that guy who requested the kit probably did the right thing

snipers suck anyway. so don't try to derail the thread. we're complaining and whining about idiots here and you shouldn't destroy that

General_J0k3r wrote:snipers suck anyway. so don't try to derail the thread. we're complaining and whining about idiots here and you shouldn't destroy that

i'm just saying, basically, that he acted according to the manual and he got kicked for it

also, i think that snipers can be vital to the team as they provide realtime reconaissance and can also take out important stuff at maximum range

thebusdriver wrote:i'm just saying, basically, that he acted according to the manual and he got kicked for it

also, i think that snipers can be vital to the team as they provide realtime reconaissance and can also take out important stuff at maximum range

make a three man sniper team ( SL, Medic, and "Superhuman Sniper from hell") and stop blocking up squad space for guys that want to play as a team, in an infantry squad. and then you can lock your own squad from the guys that are just hoppin in to snag your assests.

'[DVB wrote: Avalon.ca;781936']make a three man sniper team ( SL, Medic, and "Superhuman Sniper from hell") and stop blocking up squad space for guys that want to play as a team, in an infantry squad.

3man sniper team ??? what ??? never heard that
tbh, i think having a good sniper is worth the "trouble" at the beginning