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Marksman question

Posted: 2008-08-30 01:16
by nathanator8811
Has the marksman kit been nerfed? If not, how is it aimed properly. I can't seem to get any sort of consistent, accurate fire out of it. No matter how long it is held still, anything over 150m it varies up to 8-24 inches. Is there something I'm missing (other than what i'm aiming at)?

Re: Marksman question

Posted: 2008-08-30 01:19
by Chuc
Try to take about a half a second or a second between each shot, as spamming the target doesn't quite cut it anymore.

Re: Marksman question

Posted: 2008-08-30 01:31
by DavidP
Whats the range? If you're shooting past 600 i think it deviates wildly.

Re: Marksman question

Posted: 2008-08-30 01:34
by PeterLorre
nathanator8811 wrote:Has the marksman kit been nerfed? If not, how is it aimed properly. I can't seem to get any sort of consistent, accurate fire out of it. No matter how long it is held still, anything over 150m it varies up to 8-24 inches. Is there something I'm missing (other than what i'm aiming at)?
Look for the dust puff and then thats your sweet spot.

Re: Marksman question

Posted: 2008-08-30 03:03
by Beafy
PeterLorre wrote:Look for the dust puff and then thats your sweet spot.
What, bullets on a marksman kit never hit the same spot twice from the some pos, well they can, buts its unlikely unless its dead on target, wich it isnt, it randomly spaces a few <Inch> And increases as it goes along

Re: Marksman question

Posted: 2008-08-30 03:09
by Human_001
How does breathe control works? It is not explained in manual.

Re: Marksman question

Posted: 2008-08-30 05:02
by bprelec
nathanator8811 wrote:Has the marksman kit been nerfed? If not, how is it aimed properly. I can't seem to get any sort of consistent, accurate fire out of it. No matter how long it is held still, anything over 150m it varies up to 8-24 inches. Is there something I'm missing (other than what i'm aiming at)?
you will have to live with it, there is random deviation which cannot be changed regardless of what you do. shoot enough rounds until one hits..
Human_001 wrote:How does breathe control works? It is not explained in manual.
tested it for 1 hour,

get sniper, lie down, aim, then go to gun selection, click on the sniper, you hear breathing, i wait for it to stop, during it, etc...

it makes NO difference, and if it is suppose to then there is a total glitch, the breathing is just like a sound effect that is for making videos with, sometimes it hits nicely, most times it misses by half a meter at 200m range or so..

Will do extensive testing with measurements and starts, so i can flame with statistics

Re: Marksman question

Posted: 2008-08-30 05:22
by OkitaMakoto
Go crouched, or better prone. DONT move. Hold even the sight still for a good amount of time.... fire.

Sorry I dont know the exact time... but i played sniper v sniper with a friend on local and we got the hang of it. You just CANNOT rush in any way.

Even after moving the crosshairs, wait. Tracking isnt too effective, so wait for guys to stop and build something, stop and cover, etc.

Just DONT be in a hurry :)

Re: Marksman question

Posted: 2008-08-31 03:12
by Spearhead
When sighted in you can get a sound which is just there to tell you how long you should remain still before getting maximum accuracy. You don't need to use it at all. It's just additional info.

Also remember your accuracy will go down a lot after shooting so wait another 6-8 seconds for the next shot to be dead on target again.

Re: Marksman question

Posted: 2008-08-31 04:17
by nathanator8811
I haven't seemed to make myself clear...

When shooting at a vodnik gunner from 220m with an m-14 in prone position (at 90degrees from his directional facing), taking up to 30 seconds between shots and mouse movement, the bullets go 8 to 24 inches off everytime. Not one hit in three clips.
Something is broken.

Re: Marksman question

Posted: 2009-03-29 22:36
by Argentinedude
nathanator8811 wrote:I haven't seemed to make myself clear...

When shooting at a vodnik gunner from 220m with an m-14 in prone position (at 90degrees from his directional facing), taking up to 30 seconds between shots and mouse movement, the bullets go 8 to 24 inches off everytime. Not one hit in three clips.
Something is broken.
Sometimes you can't kill the gunner at all until he moves, i think it's one of those BF2 bugs that can't be fixed. It's like... his hitboxes aren't even there, then he moves sightly and then your bullets start hitting. When it comes to deviation, i also think something is wrong... i've tried the marksman kit a few times and the 1st shot almost always misses by a few inches even after waiting long enough to get max. accuracy, then my target runs away.

Re: Marksman question

Posted: 2009-03-29 22:42
by Qaiex
bprelec wrote:tested it for 1 hour,

get sniper, lie down, aim, then go to gun selection, click on the sniper, you hear breathing, i wait for it to stop, during it, etc...

it makes NO difference, and if it is suppose to then there is a total glitch, the breathing is just like a sound effect that is for making videos with, sometimes it hits nicely, most times it misses by half a meter at 200m range or so..

Will do extensive testing with measurements and starts, so i can flame with statistics


What? No, the Sound effect is about 8 seconds long, it's there so when you go prone you press it, and you don't have to count to 8 yourself to wait for the deviation to be minimum, you can just wait until he stops breathing and you're ready to shoot.

nathanator8811 wrote:I haven't seemed to make myself clear...

When shooting at a vodnik gunner from 220m with an m-14 in prone position (at 90degrees from his directional facing), taking up to 30 seconds between shots and mouse movement, the bullets go 8 to 24 inches off everytime. Not one hit in three clips.
Something is broken.

Well there's your problem, you're using the M14/M21, they suck.
Go rifleman instead, odds of you hitting at +50 metres are way higher, plus you're more effective in close quarters aswell.

Re: Marksman question

Posted: 2009-03-29 22:52
by Feriluce
qaiex wrote:
Well there's your problem, you're using the M14/M21, they suck.
Go rifleman instead, odds of you hitting at +50 metres are way higher, plus you're more effective in close quarters aswell.

If im not mistaken the marksman kit is there to provide accurate long range firesupport for your squad. If a rifleman can do this better, and is more effective in cqb too...whats the point of the marksman kit and why is it still ingame? :?

Re: Marksman question

Posted: 2009-03-29 22:57
by Smegburt_funkledink
Guys, the marksman rifles have been fixed since this thread was created. If you can't hit your targets with them, you're doing something wrong... most likely not being patient enough.

This threads use-by date has expired.

Re: Marksman question

Posted: 2009-03-29 23:11
by Feriluce
ah...filthy necro :p

Re: Marksman question

Posted: 2009-03-30 01:20
by Jaymz
bloody necromancers....