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I need tips on Air to Air combat, I've gotten fairly good at bombing and shooting down aircraft when they are in front of me, but when a enemy jet is behind you how do you lose him?

What i usually do is, try not to let an enemy jet see me in the first place. But thats beside the point. To evade an enemy jet, i usually try to get height and turn in a tight circle. It works well on in my opinion. Or even better try to coordinate someone to man an AA position and take them down, or scare them off so u can take them down from behind. Oh ye, and dont waste your flares, use them wisely because u cant land, get more and take off before hes killed you. This is only what i do, everyone has a different strategy, if you keep flying, you'l find yours to.

Whitty91 wrote:I need tips on Air to Air combat, I've gotten fairly good at bombing and shooting down aircraft when they are in front of me, but when a enemy jet is behind you how do you lose him?

Fly past friendly AA/jets and hope he they aren't asleep like the last time we tried it.

[R-CON]nedlands1 wrote:Fly past friendly AA/jets and hope he they aren't asleep like the last time we tried it.

They are always asleep,even if they are not moving/are positioned.I remember multiple times bringing a frogfoot infront of multiple AA vehicles multiple times on multiple occasions flying low,doing evasive manouvres in a relatively straight angle.They could have even taken him out w/o missiles in the end i was shot down.

That is of course if they are blue.

Always asleep if they are friendly...... Never miss a beat if they are an enemy

fly very low pull up in a spiral then go low again and hope the daring maneuvar causes him to hit the ground.

crAck_sh0t wrote:fly very low pull up in a spiral then go low again and hope the daring maneuvar causes him to hit the ground.

Have tryed it and it end up with me hitting the ground and the other jet flying away without the kill

Whitty91 wrote:Have tryed it and it end up with me hitting the ground and the other jet flying away without the kill

Is that the famous Whitty91 from Australia?

I don't know how well this works, but if you are locked on by an enemy jet and an AA missle is coming for you, you can fly over the water AS CLOSE AS YOU CAN and the missle flies over your canapy... It works in the reg. BF2, and I have not yet tested it on Battle for Quinlin

if i was in that situation, i'd probably be long gone then before i even made it to the water.

i fly above 2000, go down everyone once in a wile, dont get seen. Thats my secret, very few times gotten shot down, very many times shot other people down.

I think that the fighter pilot's answer to the first question is simple. Don't let him get on your six. Almost all air combat manoevering is to prevent the other guy from getting on your six and for you to get on his six. Defensive manoevers for the 'on my six' scenario when flying alone with no wing man are pretty much desperation.

I've not much experience with fighter combat in BF2 but I have done a fair bit in IL-2 (very realistic so definitely NOT always BF2 applicable). Do rolling scissors work? I would hope that the engine is at least accurate enough to replicate hard turning and slowing down properly.

But frankly if the guy is dead astern of you you have no excuse for being alive in 30 seconds time.

Well, don't fly in a straight line while they're behind you. If they are behind you though, you can pretty much say "good bye" to your jet.

TomDackery wrote:Well, don't fly in a straight line while they're behind you. If they are behind you though, you can pretty much say "good bye" to your jet.

Not really, I've evaded many jets the get on my "Six" and came up behind them and Gave them a surprise.

@topic, If a enemy jet gets on you Go high and do as many insane maneuvers as you can, If you're going left make him think right. Best one is Shoot strait up instead of doing a Back Flip Roll 180 degrees and head back down.

Go out of bounds, get a marker on the center of the map, and see if you can disorient him a bit

When you know he's behind you, try and judge how far behind. You need to only drop one flare at a time to get his missiles to unlock, so use them sparingly. If you've got the time, head to a safe spot (anywhere with friendly AA, such as at Main or by an AAV), all the while dropping single flares every second. Always make sure you go to reload as soon as your flare count goes under 20, at the very most (depending on the situation, I'd go back even after only a few. You may end up missing those last two flares while trying to evade).

When dropping flares, if you're a few seconds away from the other jet, try pausing once or twice between flare drops, to make him think you're out. Don't forget to redrop them, though. Becauseif you're lucky, he'll have launched his missile just as you drop you flares. This can be risky, though. Try to use it as a last resort.

when in F16 you're faster than any other jet ingame. Use the afterburner and you can go easily 2200, effectively leaving MIG behind (max speed for MIG is 1980, i never got past it).

just a small edit:these speeds are at low altitude, the higher you get the faster you can go.

When you're flying a jet tho you should have at least 1 spotter who can get in AA @ main and scare off (or maybe even shoot down) enemy jet, worked for me.

Once a missile has been fired at you, my condolences to your parents.

However, if you are being taled by an enemy aircraft, try keeping about 1-2 flars in between him and yourself at all times and that should make it very hard for him to lock you with A-2-Air.
Dont be complacent while doing this, though. Keep your movements unprodictable and inconstant, so you has a hard time getting you with his gunz.

You may be able to exploit the performance differences of both his and your aircraft.
Most simply, if you are faster than him, keep doing the above as long as possible and you should simply lose him.
If you are more maneuverable, you may want to use rear-view and keep him in a tight turn.
Once you feel you are out of his field of view, roll 45-90 degrees and continue this tight turn. You should have miraculosely changed direction when out of his field of view and he will find it hard to mimic your heading.

Having a wingman in the squad means you have back-up to call on. Keep the enemy at bay and he should be able to back you up and visa-versa.


And Btw, i think the MIG is faster than the F-16, but this can make it harder to kill a slower aircraft at times.
I think the Tornado is by far the fastest in PR, but i may be wrong.

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[R-MOD]Mongolian_dude wrote: I think the Tornado is by far the fastest in PR, but i may be wrong.

Some aircraft travel at different speeds at different heights, but overall yes the Tornado is the fastest in PR at this time...

i just tested tornado at 2500m. no problem getting 3500 and the manouverability is far better than in F16 or MIG

masterceo wrote:i just tested tornado at 2500m. no problem getting 3500 and the manouverability is far better than in F16 or MIG

shame that its not on the same map as the MIG, would pwn