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New player help - My idea to help out

Posted: 2008-09-30 09:16
by cyberzomby
Hey Guys,

Ive been thinking about this for a while now. Im just gonna put it out here to see if the devs think this will be a good idea but also the community.

We got a fancy PR manual but still a lot of new players dont seem to read that.

I was thinking of making a flash or normal website portal thats like basic training camp or a tutorial page of some sorts with small vid's that show the basics of the game like kit request, the wait time for accurate shots, maybe difference in flying, common tactics, RP placement.

Im pretty handy with After Effects so it would be with some fancy overlays and explenations.

The idea is that it might even appear in the wiki or even better on the homepage so that new players can check out what PR is all about and how it plays. If they got a question whily playing they could even Alt-Tab, go to the right section click the vid and see what they are doing wrong.

Yay or Nay?

Re: New player help - My idea to help out

Posted: 2008-09-30 09:31
by MadTommy
Sounds like a great plan... i loved the FH2 tutorial videos they made before they released.

TBH if you are willing to make them it does not really matter what the DEVs think...the community old and new would, i'm sure, lap them up. Obviously having the DEVs backing would help.

Re: New player help - My idea to help out

Posted: 2008-09-30 09:32
by cyberzomby
Ok great! The first +1 comment :)

Well one of the first things I remember about PR is a tutorial from the DEVs on youtube showing how to select kits. Than I was like: OMG! Thats cool! You can get kits from APC's and Rally Points and stuff! I gotta play this mod. ;) So thats sort of how I got the idea.

Re: New player help - My idea to help out

Posted: 2008-09-30 09:36
by General_J0k3r
i'd say definite yay :)

Re: New player help - My idea to help out

Posted: 2008-09-30 09:39
by Mj Pain
Yay
I also enjoyed those videos the Devs (Fuzzhead and DB) made back in 0.6(i think).

Re: New player help - My idea to help out

Posted: 2008-09-30 10:05
by LtSoucy
Great idea, I would love to help at all possible. Maybe dragging a few devs in would be nice. ;)

Re: New player help - My idea to help out

Posted: 2008-09-30 10:08
by Priby
Will sure bring alot new players to PR.

Re: New player help - My idea to help out

Posted: 2008-09-30 10:24
by LtSoucy
Ya and most will be trained enough I hope. :p

Re: New player help - My idea to help out

Posted: 2008-09-30 10:50
by vilhelm123
Would be snazzy +1 from me 8)

Re: New player help - My idea to help out

Posted: 2008-09-30 11:04
by cyberzomby
Sweet :) Im thinking that tonight Ill start thinking about some topics that I think we really need to cover in the basic training, maybe make a script. Ill put up a new topic somewhere where I can post the progress, post screenshots, post examples so we can perfect the text, explenation, what ever :P to make it as good as possible.

EDIT:

Oh and in the excitement I forgot to thank you for the offered help! Will keep it in mind! Might need someone to do the voice overs. Im dutch and I'd hate to be able to hear that when I watch the video's. It should be a neutral accentless english voice I reckon.

Re: New player help - My idea to help out

Posted: 2008-09-30 12:50
by Rudd
You gotta Yay from me

Re: New player help - My idea to help out

Posted: 2008-09-30 13:02
by cyberzomby
ok excellent!

I got a few topics in mind already.

PR Basics:

Kit selection
What kits are there
How to use kits ( being the .... maybe not every kit. Because than: Who's gonna watch 'm all )
Hitting your target
Wounded ( also getting revived )
Resuply
Spawning ( selecting the right point )
Joining a server ( what squad is right for you )
Vehicles

Anything I didnt cover? I think we need to cover the basic stuff. The advanced tactics can be covered later or maybe not even at all. But we need to make sure if people watched all these vids they can join a game and know what to do.

Re: New player help - My idea to help out

Posted: 2008-09-30 15:13
by Smuke
Yay from me, i think i might have to look at these, brush up my skills :P

Re: New player help - My idea to help out

Posted: 2008-09-30 15:14
by cyberzomby
Well at first its gonna be just the basics. Later on if these are well recieved or maybe even see the daylight ;) I might do an advanced series.

Re: New player help - My idea to help out

Posted: 2008-09-30 16:44
by pwn3ge106
Advanced: Pestering DEVs in game about .85, then 1.0 until they leave the server.
Advanced: Teabagging their dead body after they leave the server.

Re: New player help - My idea to help out

Posted: 2008-09-30 16:51
by Scot
pwn3ge106 wrote:Advanced: Pestering DEVs in game about .85, then 1.0 until they leave the server.
Advanced: Teabagging their dead body after they leave the server.
And then finish with a short sharp, the best way to be hated by everyone.

But good idea, go for it!!

Re: New player help - My idea to help out

Posted: 2008-09-30 19:30
by LeChuckle
a question: is it possible to make a new in-game voice tutorial like the one in vanilla?

Re: New player help - My idea to help out

Posted: 2008-09-30 19:45
by Cyrax-Sektor
LeChuck wrote:a question: is it possible to make a new in-game voice tutorial like the one in vanilla?
Yes it is. There are codes in the vanilla weapons that trigger the voice audio help, and a separate sound file for the audio tutorial for each subject in vBF2.

An example from the wrench.tweak file:

rem ---BeginComp:HelpHud ---
ObjectTemplate.createComponent HelpHud
ObjectTemplate.HelpHud.helpStringKey "HUD_HELP_WEAPON_HANDHELD_WRENCH_fixStuff"
ObjectTemplate.HelpHud.helpSoundKey "HUD_HELP_WEAPON_HANDHELD_WRENCH_fixStuff"
rem ---EndComp ---

This file is also needed: Common_client.zip\Sound\VoiceMessages_Help.con

Here is where the English sound files are located:

drive:\Program Files\EA GAMES\Battlefield 2\mods\bf2Common_client.zip\Sound\English\Help_VO

German help: Common_client.zip\Sound\German\Help_VO

French: Common_client.zip\Sound\French\Help_VO

Re: New player help - My idea to help out

Posted: 2008-09-30 20:01
by DeltaFart
Cyber, start with the basics when you first enter a server and what you see when you first spawn

Re: New player help - My idea to help out

Posted: 2008-09-30 20:05
by Simmage
Absolutely YAY. That's an excellent idea, the only thing I see is that it will require a lot of time and community effort. I'd be willing to do something to help if it was every required.

To add to the list of basics:

It would be prudent to explain the new HUD

Just an idea, (could be covered in the spawnpoint category) explaining the map and it's icons to the new players would probably be a good thing.

Great, ambitious idea. I like it.