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Limited Marker for everybody to alleviate squad communications

Posted: 2008-10-03 15:31
by Halfyon
Ok, heres the basic observation first, then the suggestion itself:

In PR squads have only one channel to communicate everything - in reality squadmembers would be able to give each other hand signs, talk to each other without disrupting 2 other squadmembers who are communicating in some way ten meters away.

Also body language is impossible, so in tense situations the squad channel can be more confusing than informing -> Mostly because of multiple target sightings or updates on targets behaviour :!:

so heres the suggestion :idea: : Give every Squadmember a simple small "dot" marker without range below it to allow quick communication of spotted enemy positons etc.

This small marker should not be seen on the Map, only by the fellow Squadmembers. Placed by using the CONTACT switch in primary commo rose.

Stating which kind of target it is and what it is doing still has to be communicated via VOIP if needed, BUT it would clear the channel for what it is needed mostly: coordinating squads actions by the squadleader.

so :? :

Re: Limited Marker for everybody to alleviate squad communications

Posted: 2008-10-13 15:16
by Halfyon
hm, somehow this thread doesnt show up in the list. I can find it via membersearch options but its not visible...has it been removed by someone ?

strange, with a new post in it its back on the list. :confused:

Re: Limited Marker for everybody to alleviate squad communications

Posted: 2008-10-13 15:30
by arjan
Dont think its possible.

Re: Limited Marker for everybody to alleviate squad communications

Posted: 2008-10-13 16:19
by Halfyon
Because only commanders/squadleaders can place any markers ? is that hardcoded :? :

Re: Limited Marker for everybody to alleviate squad communications

Posted: 2008-10-13 16:24
by motherdear
Halfyon wrote:Because only commanders/squadleaders can place any markers ? is that hardcoded :? :
it must be able to be done though since even the blue mob could make ? marks on the map.

Re: Limited Marker for everybody to alleviate squad communications

Posted: 2008-10-13 16:43
by DeltaFart
I can think it could be done, since we already have two commo roses for different players. Only issue I see is that there would be no way to make it show up to just the squad

Re: Limited Marker for everybody to alleviate squad communications

Posted: 2008-10-13 16:58
by Mariospeedwagen
How about a temporary marker, set on the map, that lasts for say 5-10 seconds. It could go like:

Me: Squad Leader, I just spotted a couple stragglers moving east across the street HERE.
*Places marker
*SL brings up his map and places a move marker on that position for the rest of the squad's reference

Maybe have it be a blinking green dot, that would show up as blue to other squads so as not to cause any confusion. Is this, or something like this, possible?

Re: Limited Marker for everybody to alleviate squad communications

Posted: 2008-10-13 17:36
by victor_phx
It may be possible, I don't know, but I don't think it is either necessary or good for the game. You just have to know how to report an enemy, and how to coordinate your squad to engage him at the right position - no dots, no fancy minimap. That's the essence of PR.

Re: Limited Marker for everybody to alleviate squad communications

Posted: 2008-10-14 01:00
by Halfyon
I dont see the problem in people not knowing how to report contacts, but in the Limitation of the single com-channel for 6 Squadmembers which is needed for a lot more than just reporting contacts...

...and i dont believe that reporting contacts (which would still be necessary, only faster) is "the essence of pr". Of course coordinating actions following to the contact are - and there would be more room for that if the spotting thing could be alleviated somehow.

Re: Limited Marker for everybody to alleviate squad communications

Posted: 2008-10-14 02:04
by Sadist_Cain
I wanna know if it's possible when shouting "Contact!" to trigger an animation where the dude points his hand

Re: Limited Marker for everybody to alleviate squad communications

Posted: 2008-10-14 07:18
by cyberzomby
In BF2142 it is. Might also be possible in this engine.