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I've been thinking.....why is there such a split between players since .8?

Then I saw this.....

Caboosehatesbabies wrote:I just spent an hour and a half testing and this is what I found.

It's about time....and what you do with it.....


I can never in my wildest dreams imagine wasting so much free time like this....


I'm 21, going to school full time, giving about 8 hours of guitar lessons a week, and spending the rest of my time writing music/gigging and hanging out with friends.

My schedule is far from "hectic" and I still only play PR about 3 hours a week. It boggles me that some people can just sit in front of their computer and play this game for such looooong periods of time, and do it so many times during the week.





My point is.....


I don't think this game is meant for people who...you know...do stuff other than video games.

The commanding thread is a perfect example of this. Just to have one good round as commander requires about a 3 hour session, which is close to my weekly play time.

You'd have to be playing this game at least 12 hours a week to "mix in playing as CO" with your normal PR schedule.

Since I make 25$ an hour teaching lessons, that's just hundreds of potential dollars gone...from playing a computer game.....


Maybe this game just isn't meant for people who's main hobby in life isn't playing PC games....

Or, playing in large time amounts is not for you... thats basically what you said and its obvious.

Someone who has other engagements wont have time for a game. Itd be the same for Far Cry 2... If you could only play for 3 hours a week, youd only be able to play it for 3 hours a week. No matter the game youd be losing out on other wordly things.

I almost get what youre saying but it still seems like youre making a deal over nothing. Sure, PR isnt a simple run and gun, die and respawn, the rounds take 2 minutes, kind of game anymore. And yeah, in your three hours in PR you wont be shooting as much as you might in CS:S, but at the same time... you could be playing CS:S for three hours and just blindly shoot away at guys who come around the same corner from the same tiny map time after time... OR you could put your three hours of vegetation time into PR and get one intense round in which you think tactically the entire time, play as a squad, etc.


Its all what you make of it. The simple fact is video games themselves arent gonna be too easy to do if you are swamped with other stuff, its not just a PR thing...

And sure, stuff in PR takes time to get used to, but how often are you learning a new kit? I have been playing as medic for pretty much since I started PR, sure I play rifleman or grenadier, or AR now and then, but Im not always having to devote 3 hours a week to learning something new Its not THAT hard.

When Im at school I have tons of time for PR because this is where I choose to devote my time. Sure I get invited to things in RL, and I often go, but many times I turn them down as Id rather just work on something for PR or play some. It might sound like a waste to you, but that's where I want to be in the future, making games or movies based on 3d programming... Instead of just playing for 48 hours a week, I play, map, and now Im starting to learn modeling. Its a hobby just like hanging out with friends, watching movies, a sport, etc. Im sure its like this for a lot of other people[Rhino]

If you dont have time to devote to PR, then dont try learning to be a commander if its not what you want. Let the people who live and breathe PR take on those crazy multitasking roles. I dont even try at being commander. If you have the time, go for it! But if you only have three hours, then just jump into a game and play for three hours, get a good squad and just play. Dont worry about the rest of it. When you want to learn something new, go for it and it will be time well spent.




Aside from that, I dont know how else to respond.


And someone spending 1 1/2 hours testing the ammo crates is NOT what the typical player even comes CLOSE to having to do. He did that on his own and it was NOT required for decent gameplay on his end. He's more than welcome to do that, but PR does NOT require THAT much time and investigation into things, in my opinion. It shouldnt[currently] even take that long to understand deviation.

'[R-DEV wrote:OkitaMakoto;835965']
And someone spending 1 1/2 hours testing the ammo crates is NOT what the typical player even comes CLOSE to having to do. He did that on his own and it was NOT required for decent gameplay on his end. He's more than welcome to do that, but PR does NOT require THAT much time and investigation into things, in my opinion. It shouldnt[currently] even take that long to understand deviation.

And I did it at around 9pm instead of playing the game because I had just finished writing a paper and was looking for something to do before I went to bed. Sometimes it's actually fun to experiment with the different facets of a game and understand how they work.

[quote=""'[R-DEV"]OkitaMakoto;835965'


And someone spending 1 1/2 hours testing the ammo crates is NOT what the typical player even comes CLOSE to having to do. He did that on his own and it was NOT required for decent gameplay on his end. He's more than welcome to do that, but PR does NOT require THAT much time and investigation into things, in my opinion. It shouldnt[currently] even take that long to understand deviation.[/quote]

You missed my point, or I didn't make it clear enough, Okita....


I'm talking about the PR player base....not about video games in general....


It's not about the # of hours people use for video games in general...it's about how many hours people are using to play PR.


We have so many people who play this game that can blow ridiculous amounts of time on it, that it makes me wonder if this game is more tailored to those kinds of people, either intentionally or unintentionally.



You also brought up alot of other popular FPS's, and those don't really compare, because they don't require you to sit for several hours straight to get the full experience.



It's about the player-base. Anyone can play CS for 5 hours a day, but if you played for 20 minutes a day, you'd still get the overall experience. Though the number of players playing CS dwarfs the number playing PR, I think that the people who play PR play it a lot more hours per week on average, and definitely play it in longer sessions.



A lot of times I find myself quitting a round halfway because I can't just sit down at my computer and shut out the rest of my life for 2-3 hours straight with no interruptions.



[quote="Caboosehatesbabies""]And I did it at around 9pm instead of playing the game because I had just finished writing a paper and was looking for something to do before I went to bed. Sometimes it's actually fun to experiment with the different facets of a game and understand how they work.[/quote]



Sorry, more interesting things for me to do in life than conducting science experiments in a BF2 mod.

But I guess that's the point of my thread....

[R-DEV]OkitaMakoto wrote:Or, playing in large time amounts is not for you... thats basically what you said and its obvious.

Someone who has other engagements wont have time for a game.

I believe he did get your point, and the answer is yes, this game does take a time commitment of a few hours at once to get the full experience.

If that's not for you, fine, you don't have to play the game or hang around the forum.

i dunno what .8 has to do with it, i found .6 and .7 to require epic amounts of time as well.

now if you will excuse me there is a small humanoid like creature poking me in the calf. it's interupting my internet experience and i think it wants my attention.

i think it wants me to water it or feed it!?!

Igloo35 wrote:
now if you will excuse me there is a small humanoid like creature poking me in the calf. it's interupting my internet experience and i think it wants my attention.

i think it wants me to water it or feed it!?!

LOL!

I understand you, I think, and yeah, PR takes some time. But you can also hop on and play a quick game in an hour or sometimes less. Just dont hop on Kashan if you dont have the time.

EJOD and the like tend to go fairly quickly. Its not that PR is tailored ir not, its just the way it is... so well, sure I guess it just IS a better game for those who can take a larger chunk of time to play it. So... yeah. It is that kind of game. Its not too surprising either.

But at the same time, you can easily play a quick round, or even a portion of a round. I no longer feel I need to finish a round to enjoy PR. vBF2 you hd stats and all that and you really wanted to see a round through. I still WANT to see it through to the end in PR, but if I only have 30 minutes or so I just join a squad, tell them I have a limited amount of time and just go from there.

random pants wrote: Sorry, more interesting things for me to do in life than conducting science experiments in a BF2 mod.

But I guess that's the point of my thread....

Lets not degrade into leaving these kinds of comments. You win, you live outside more than some of us. No need to be rude with snide remarks.

Caboosehatesbabies wrote: If that's not for you, fine, you don't have to play the game or hang around the forum.

Same here, let's keep things civil. I for one should have thrown more smileys into my post, I fear they came out too strong.

My longest PR stint was 13 straight hours...

Yet I work full time, so I don't have much time to spend when I have it off So I quite obviously waste it all playing video games. Also imho a good game of PR lasts 2-3 hours a "game" can be jumping in and out of in about an hour or so and still be enjoyable... However I always Tank Gun or Squadlead so I like to be there from start to finish and see the whole glory of the battlefield play out...

I went to the PR LAN and stayed up all night playing games, I have over 1000 posts on this forum and I'm even a server moderator

I would say some of my best mates are on this game and I even had the good fortune to meet them at the LAN

I think the OP is right, perhaps we do waste too much time on this game

I'm tired cos I've been up till 4 getting my widescreen monitor working, then TESTING for an hour to see what stuff looks like in game, Yknow important things like smoke and explosions n stuff

How sad, I really should "get a life"...



I'm 21, I have a full time Job, and yet I still play Pr for 10+ hours per week (when I can be arsed, I'm either on in which case over 10 hours, or off, in which case not on at all)










Obligatory Drunken social life Pic


Did I forget to mention that I also go climbing Every single week and nothing gives me greater pleasure than to hang 85ft off the ground on my fingertips...

Nevermind the Volunteer work I've done at Kents Big Cat Conservation park...

There's also the Bungee Jumping I like to do at least twice a year...

And I could also include the Training Im doing in the BPA (british parachute association) to do my first jump...

And I spose we'll forget that when I go on holiday I like it to be a huge hiking holiday over 3000m above sea level, where the nearest House (let alone village...) is over 20 miles away and my water comes from mountain streams... (when I don't go snowboarding this is...)

Oh yea and I like playing Skittles with my dad down the Pub on a monday night

Three things spring to my mind reading this thread, the last of them being a quote form the film "Wanted"

1. Pot Calling Kettle Black
2. Pwned

3. What Have You Done Lately?

i know i only represent myself, a small percentage of the PR gaming community, but all i can say is ive been playing since .4 which is longer than many people have been playing this mod and i do consider myself hardcore into PR its almost the only game i play BUT.. i dont think ive ever played a game more than 2 hours and my typical game only lasts for about 30-45 minutes. and thats more than enough for me to enjoy it. You can pop in and out of a server just as easily in PR as you can in a game like counterstrike. you arent gaining experience points, or gaining levels, as that would require a massive devotion of time. PR is not world of warcraft, its a first person shooter and by design fps games are easy to devote small amounts of time to. it doesnt take THAT long to get good at PR, and its not at all hard to learn, and honestly its so tough sometimes to find a good squad i couldnt imagine trying to play for more than 2 hours.

and the funny thing is i really dont have a life. i could probably play for hours if i wanted too.

i didnt bother reading the thread...

all i am going to say is: shup up. nice excuse to brag about playing guitar and stuff. go away.


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all i can say is .506 is still better than what this game is becoming.

You're right about one thing randompants,

random pants wrote:It's about time....and what you do with it.....

Exactly, and everybody spends their time the way they want to. Caboose, for example, spent one night rigorously testing out the BF2 ammo supply system and he's probably going to be added to our testing team for showing his interest in that sort of thing.



Engage life rant...

Reading about gigging and giving guitar lessons really reminds me of the kind of life I turned my back on. But I have my own reasons for doing so. I'm 21, I graduated from college in Orlando four/five months ago and during my year and a half there I gigged/party'd/went clubbing all the bloody time yet I somehow managed to play PR tons (let alone be heavily involved in the development of 0.6,0.7,0.75...)

Ever since I graduated though, I've been living in Houston,TX with my girlfriend and all I do is,

1. Work at my brothers restaurant.

2. Play/Develop PR and hang out on TS with other devs.

3. Spend time with my girlfriend.

That's been my life for about four months now and to be honest, I really don't care. It suits me fine. For me, hanging out on TS while taking about life and/or playing endless rounds of PR is just as fun as going clubbing with a bunch of mates (it's a whole load cheaper as well!).

Full time uni student as well as apprentice cook, learning a language, freelance illustration and I get in about 1-3 hours of playtime a week. What's the kicker?

I'm totally satisfied.

I'm totally satisfied developing this mod which I know will bring enjoyment to not only myself, but the rest of the team I work with and and 1,000 of people around the world.

Random Pants i would like to say that the exact opposite of wht you are saying is true... People who play PR generally play it when they have time over. I know i and most the people i play with do anyways. For example, its Sunday evening around 18:00, you're bored and can't be bothered going anywhere so theres a perfect slot for a good round of PR. I don't make time to play PR i play PR when i have time.

So this is my life rant:

i'm a full time student

I go out on the weekends, to parties or other random stuff

I spend time with my friends and my girlfriend almost every day

I go skiing or traveling on most holidays

I have a part time job


In the weekends i have a couple of hours to kill before heading down to the pub or to a party etc there i choose to play some PR. I get in a good 6-7 Hrs of PR a week, yet i don't make time for it.I find playing on sunday evenings is always a great way to unwind after a hard week.Sure i could spend that time doing something productive... But you know what? I cant be arsed to. I'm perfectly satisfied wasting it on PR.

i love you cain

I have no problem playing/testing PR and I'm a full time student, I train 6 days a week, I ride my dirt bike, I do a lot of skiing and I have a job. So yes you can still play PR and have a life.

To be honest I don't see the point in this thread, you play PR as much as you can, if you can only play PR 2 hours a week then you do that, if you can play it for 12 hours a week you do that.

I have no problem playing. I love playing PR and making my map for it. I have never liked a game as much as I have liked PR and my Saturdays and Sundays are only playing PR with friends. I'm a fulltime student, work, and I still have time to visit Washington D.C., New York NY, Bar Harbor ME, Niagara Falls NY/Canada, Gettysburg PA, West Point Military Academy, For Devens.(US National Guard Base) Correct me if i'm wrong how is taht having no life?