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Improving Sight Picture On G3 Iron Sights

Posted: 2008-11-06 15:11
by Aranykai
I would like to apologize in advance if this has been brought up before, but I did a fairly thorough search and only found information regarding the original suggestions of 3d iron sights.

My main complaint is the rendering of the aperture sights for the G3 leaves you with a very small and unrealistic sight picture. In reality, the H&K aperture sighting system provides a very large sight picture while maintaining quick target acquisition. Compared to the other weapons in game, I feel its much more difficult for this reason.

Current G3:
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Actual photo of the H&K aperture sight on my G3 Airsoft replica:
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Quick overlay to demonstrate the significant difference:
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In game shot with the model scaled up to provide a realistic sight picture:
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I don't know how difficult this would be to take care of, but I think it would be a worthwhile endeavor.

Re: Improving Sight Picture On G3 Iron Sights

Posted: 2008-11-06 15:25
by Cp
can you really get your eye as close to the iron sight as you can with your camera? (your head will be in the way, no?)

And do you really want to get the eye so close to the sight? The g3 is known to kick like a mule.

Re: Improving Sight Picture On G3 Iron Sights

Posted: 2008-11-06 15:41
by Aranykai
Cp wrote:can you really get your eye as close to the iron sight as you can with your camera? (your head will be in the way, no?)

And do you really want to get the eye so close to the sight? The g3 is known to kick like a mule.
I positioned the camera the same distance from the rear aperture as a persons eye would be. Its no closer than an aperture sight from the AR-15, which is rendered quite well as the M4/M16 in game.

For some perspective, to get the sight picture presented in the game, then end of the buttstock would have to be placed in front of your chin, not tucked into your shoulder as it should be.

Re: Improving Sight Picture On G3 Iron Sights

Posted: 2008-11-06 15:57
by Pariel
I think this idea is great. Aiming with the G3 irons right now seriously sucks.

Re: Improving Sight Picture On G3 Iron Sights

Posted: 2008-11-06 16:13
by sakils2
I think this idea is great. Aiming with the G3 irons right now seriously sucks.
It's not about sucking, it's about how it is IRL :D
P.S. God damn it, my avatar doesn't work!

Re: Improving Sight Picture On G3 Iron Sights

Posted: 2008-11-06 16:18
by gazzthompson
g3 irons rock, but im all for realistic sights.

Re: Improving Sight Picture On G3 Iron Sights

Posted: 2008-11-06 17:37
by alvina
I think the mods have said that they will move all ironsights a little bit closer to the camera, guess that will look more like the picture youre showing.

Re: Improving Sight Picture On G3 Iron Sights

Posted: 2008-11-06 18:43
by -Sauso-
wash your dirty ginch that is on the floor!.lol

good pics though..i see what u mean.

Re: Improving Sight Picture On G3 Iron Sights

Posted: 2008-11-06 19:55
by DeadboyUSMC
The miniscule sight picture issue reaches across to many weapons, but the G3 is especially dinky. The SAW also has this problem, I've stopped using the kit mostly because of my inablilty to get a decent sight picture.

I wish I had any skills with rendering, otherwise I'd make this the M249's sight:
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Re: Improving Sight Picture On G3 Iron Sights

Posted: 2008-11-06 20:17
by Waaah_Wah
The iron sights on the MEC LMG could also need some fixing :)

Re: Improving Sight Picture On G3 Iron Sights

Posted: 2008-11-06 20:25
by DeadboyUSMC
Yeah, but again, I think it goes for many weapons (G3, AK, most LMG's...).

I need to dust off my aperture...

Re: Improving Sight Picture On G3 Iron Sights

Posted: 2008-11-06 20:58
by jbgeezer
Couldn agree more on this matter, hope the devs do something here to get iron attractive (again?)

Re: Improving Sight Picture On G3 Iron Sights

Posted: 2008-11-07 00:02
by Chuc
Hai gais, I cans raed minds :)

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If it were moved any closer, the rear apeture would not be perfectly matching the ring of the front sight.

Re: Improving Sight Picture On G3 Iron Sights

Posted: 2008-11-07 00:08
by DeltaFart
which I would guess would be realistic

Re: Improving Sight Picture On G3 Iron Sights

Posted: 2008-11-07 00:12
by Aranykai
Hey Chuc, that looks alot better :) I think it could go a bit more personally, but its a vast improvement that I will be more than happy to use.

Re: Improving Sight Picture On G3 Iron Sights

Posted: 2008-11-07 01:24
by DeadboyUSMC
git owt uf owr heds chook!!1

Re: Improving Sight Picture On G3 Iron Sights

Posted: 2008-11-07 02:01
by LithiumFox
The only reason i agree is that the sights are too small comparatively due to the fact that a screen is smaller than the field of vision humans have.

Pretty much it should be adjust mainly due to the fact that it WOULD be larger IRL due to the fact that we see objects larger IRL than we do in PR.

=/ So i'd be more for allowing for this

Re: Improving Sight Picture On G3 Iron Sights

Posted: 2008-11-07 06:19
by Bringerof_D
Cp wrote:can you really get your eye as close to the iron sight as you can with your camera? (your head will be in the way, no?)

And do you really want to get the eye so close to the sight? The g3 is known to kick like a mule.
it doesnt matter how much a rifle kicks, if you have it shouldered, your whole upper body moves with it so the sight's not going to go into your eye unless you were really noob with rifles

Re: Improving Sight Picture On G3 Iron Sights

Posted: 2008-11-07 06:43
by DeltaFart

Re: Improving Sight Picture On G3 Iron Sights

Posted: 2008-11-07 18:38
by jbgeezer
Thats what im talkin about chuc!