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This is sort of a 2 question/suggestion,

For anyone who actually knows, how common is it for US marines to have an m16 with only ironsights? I never knew that the marines used the M68 aimpoint until I did a little google search today and found out that they do,


apparently they also use the EOTECH too

Im curious if theres very many marines anymore that use only ironsights. does anyone know how much m68s are in use? is it enough to maybe replace the ironsight riflemen in PR with an m68?

The Marine is using an EOTECH because he probably purchased it with his own money.

Edit: On a second look, that optic doesn't look much like an EOTECH. EOTECHs have square optics. If you notice, the optic pictured is circular.

And notice the guy next to him, in the background, is using his completely standard-issue M16A4 with Ironsights.

The reasons the US Army has Aimpoints in game is to make up for the fact that they are using a carbine, an M4. The M4 is less accurate, has a lower zero, and is less powerful (due to the shorter barrel length, lowering muzzle velocity). Marines won't be getting red-dot optics because they are using a rifle, the M16A4, which suffers from none of the problems listed above.

I would like an reddot for the M16A4, yes please

And AFAIK, the last picture is with a MARs (or something like that) sight. Don't the Israeli's use them on their Tavors?

jaspercat444 wrote:I would like an reddot for the M16A4, yes please

And AFAIK, the last picture is with a MARs (or something like that) sight. Don't the Israeli's use them on their Tavors?

yeah that was a mis-identification on my part. looks to be a mars site to me too. and yeah he probably did purchase it with his own money.

so is anyone here a marine? can you tell me how common it is to see m68s?

i like the variation between teh marines and army in PR...so i say leave it how it is

charliegrs wrote:

apparently they also use the EOTECH too

not an EoTech.


see.

reportedly the battery life on a Eo is ****.

Marines doe use MARS sight, M68 Aimpoint and Acog, so why dont the dev mix the kit whit those ? =D we known R-DEV had a MARS cause we can see it in IDF weapons, so, Medic can had M68, 1st Riffleman the MARS, or something like that.Also if they can add an EOTECH on SF M4A1, and on some M4 of USAR ( i known its not a standard issue but there is ALOT infield ).

That would be SOOO great.

Just hope the RDEV will consider this =D

Offtopic - I would hate to be the guy on point in that first picture. If the guy behind him fired that is...

charliegrs wrote:

umm, that picture is of the army's 3rd id, look at the helmets.

gx wrote:umm, that picture is of the army's 3rd id, look at the helmets.

I was about to say... didn't think Marines used DCU's anymore..

although, judging by that picture, if they're Army, why aren't they in ACUs. What's the date on the picture?

even in the OP pictures not everyone is using a aimpoint.

Then it's just a older picture. Those guys are in the Army.

Anyway, marines should have aimpoint. They are using it just as Army is.

The Marines can and do use optical sights. And photos out of context won't really prove anything. You'll also be hard pressed to find a document describing the typical customizations done to each Marine's weapon. So really, the argument should be about whether or not PR is going to implement them and not so much about whether or not every Marine has one.

Solid Knight wrote:The Marines can and do use optical sights. And photos out of context won't really prove anything. You'll also be hard pressed to find a document describing the typical customizations done to each Marine's weapon. So really, the argument should be about whether or not PR is going to implement them and not so much about whether or not every Marine has one.

yeah thats basically what i was going for, i was thinking since this mod is based on realism, is it realistic to have ironsight m16s or is that rare now in the modern day marine corps? and should they be replaced by m68s in pr? only if its realistic.

charliegrs wrote:yeah thats basically what i was going for, i was thinking since this mod is based on realism, is it realistic to have ironsight m16s or is that rare now in the modern day marine corps? and should they be replaced by m68s in pr? only if its realistic.

Since they do carry them, even if it was only 20% of Marines, it wouldn't be unrealistic to have them in game.

PR is realistic, and since the standard issue is irons, i say go for the irons!

Seems to be a waste to have an M-16A4 with nothing on it. Kindof the whole point.

I personally prefer aimpoint to scope&irons and adding that to rifleman would be great and not unrealistic. Or maybe more customized kit-selection with scopes, aimpoint & irons.

The Marines already have a full rifle as opposed to the Army's carbine, as I understood it the addition of the Aimpoint to the supporting classes was to balance out the comparitive lack of power and accuracy compared with the other factions rifles.

[R-MOD]Bob_Marley wrote:The Marines already have a full rifle as opposed to the Army's carbine, as I understood it the addition of the Aimpoint to the supporting classes was to balance out the comparitive lack of power and accuracy compared with the other factions rifles.

In PR, the deviation and damage of the M4 is exactly the same as the M16A4.