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Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Posted: 2009-01-14 02:41
by Maniac302
This is supposed to be project reality, so it makes no sense why you would lose all control of an airplane when flying above 5,6000 feet. What's worse, is you can still be climbing, with no way to descend, so say hello to the out-of-bounds death.
:mad:

Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Posted: 2009-01-14 03:05
by Solid Knight
You can get to 56,000ft?

Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Posted: 2009-01-14 03:10
by CodeRedFox
Does that sounds like something we would ADD?

Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Posted: 2009-01-14 04:41
by gclark03
Yes. Jet pilots are very useful to their teams...IN ORBIT!

Seriously, what is the point? This is PR, not Orbiter.

Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Posted: 2009-01-14 09:53
by HeXeY
From what I've seen most attack jets have an max altitude around 40-50 000 feet, so you should be happy that you can fly higher...

Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Posted: 2009-01-14 10:01
by Outlawz7
Don't fly over 5000 then.


Although I must say I like high altitudes due FPS increase :p

Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Posted: 2009-01-14 10:21
by PlaynCool
Its vbf2 issue, but after you lose control you fall 5-6 sec and you gain control again...

Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Posted: 2009-01-15 19:15
by torenico
This is called "Stall", also engine limitations.

Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Posted: 2009-01-15 19:54
by Cptkanito
Solid Knight wrote:You can get to 56,000ft?
Who said the Battlefield height units were in feet?

Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Posted: 2009-01-15 20:29
by SFOD_F HaXXeD
This has taken me out of bounds about 3 times, hate it but it's my own fault for going that high.

Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Posted: 2009-01-16 22:36
by Maniac302
PlaynCool wrote:Its vbf2 issue, but after you lose control you fall 5-6 sec and you gain control again...
No, I recreated this on my own computer/local server. I flew up, and once I passed the limit altitude, the controls froze, and I continued to fly in the same direction, which happened to be up. I did not stall. I continued on the same heading I entered the no-control zone until I died out of bounds.

BTW, It was with the MIG, maybe others behave differently.

Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Posted: 2009-01-16 23:20
by CAS_117
wtf? Air density zero on Kashan is 5000 meters. Qinling its 2000 meters. What on earth are you talking about?

Edit: Altitude is in meters btw so you can technically operate above 10,000 feet which is plenty considering view distance is 900m.

Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Posted: 2009-01-16 23:47
by PlaynCool
I dont know its probably a bug...

Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Posted: 2009-01-16 23:48
by Alex6714
Its just how the engine works...

Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Posted: 2009-01-17 00:03
by SocketMan
What was the speed?
Maybe that is part of the problem.

Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Posted: 2009-01-17 00:06
by CAS_117
Its not a bug its just that air density becomes exponentially smaller as you go higher. So it was created that way by EA to prevent people from just loitering out of sight too easily. The difference is that aircraft engines to NOT push air around. They just generate a "force" in a direction through space, airflow or not. Its closer to pulling a train along a railway than a rocket engine see. The problem is that as you go higher, your engine still works, but the air friction, and wing lift, which DO use air to operate the plane, no longer have any influence, which is why you lose control. <---TLDR

1. Jet/Chopper engines don't need air to work.

2. Flaps need air.

3. Air gets thin really high.

4. Engine works but wings don't.

So the issue really isn't the air density, its how the jet engines work in BF2.