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After reading through the "New Middle Eastern armies" thread and doing a throughout search for any similar proposal I decided to start this thread.

Iran is a military powerhouse in the Middle East. Counted with paramilitary forces its got the largest armed forces in the world. If any middle eastern nation deserves to get its own faction in PR rather than being part of the MEC it's Iran.

The Iranian army would be interesting to design and create aswell as play as. Among American/Russian/German weapon systems they use locally produced vehicles and equipment that would add alot of variety to the game

My question right now is if there is anyone that is interesting in contributing to this project or if you want to see it in PR at all? It won't replace the MEC or anything like that, just add more variety to the middle eastern theatre in PR.
I myself can contribute by getting some friends (or friends and relatives of them) to record the farsi voices that are needed.

So... Discuss this matter and come with your own suggestions on what they should use (should the G3 or KH2000 be the main rifle, for example) and so on.


Good militaryphotos-links showcasing the equipment fo the Iranian Army:
Islamic Republic of Iran Army - Military Photos
Iranian Armed Forces media thread. - Military Photos
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/sh ... hp?t=75926

Very very very interesting proposal ! I was taking a look at the photos and they use G3, some with scopes and some with bayonets.

The MEC army seens to be very similiar to them. To bad I dont have any modding skills, otherwise I would help.

I hope that the devs come to be interested with this.

Just what we needed, I love this idea.

Throw up a design doc

Look up on their hardware.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Current_Eq ... anian_Army

and of course those fine threads you have shown of their army.

All models should be available:

Weapons:
For various assault rifle kits the G3 and or AK series could be used
For Light machinegun kit the German MG3
Light AT RPG-7

Aircraft:
Attack chopper AH1 Cobra
Fighter jet F14 and or or Mig-29

Armour:
APC BTR-60
Tank T-72

I've registered on something called the "Iran Military Forums". Will ask them some general questions about the equipment before I make a design document. Like how widely used the Khaybar rifle and MG3 are and what grenade launcher the grenadier should be using (havn't found any pictures or info about the HK79 UGL in the Iranian army). At the moment my request havn't been approved so you are free to discuss this proposal and come with your own suggestions until I get some answers .


Btw, can someone identify this vehicle and the TOW-lookalike on top of it?

Thanks for making the thread, this is exactly the sort of productive discussion I wanted to see in mine. I'm interested in this idea and I hope I can help somehow.

I think the vehicle pictured above is a Safir jeep, the TOW lookalike is probably a Toophan (TOW copy) or Toophan 2 ("improvement" of the Toophan).

Man, just noticed how many Baoynet G3s they're using, any chance of seeing Bayonet G3s in PR?
And I noticed that Iranians love bikes ... But they really love them xD

Any info on the Zulfiqar-3? They said they started mass production of them lately, would their use in the near future be possibly represented in PR? Just curious.

Hey i'm wondering, could the USI T-72 have more ERA bricks strapped on (judging by the picks) using the same method used for the USArmy BlackHawk? They seem to have much more bricks on than the current T-72.. Would it actually make the tank better with those ERA added?



Also, what is this gun? Must be some sort of HMG or Recoilless Cannon I guess? Anybody know?



It seems they use BTR-60s with a HMG on top rather than the usual Turret-Cannon PR has... Or is this a BTR-60?



I think I also saw a picture of the SPG-9 Recoilless cannon, maybe another opportunity for Deltafart? Eh, but there was only one pic with two of them tho .. Might just be old hardware shown during the parade just for the heck of it.

MG3! Booyah! I'm liking this idea, even though I don't like the idea of being at war with Iran.

Yeah, T-72 with ERA is needed. But the MBT should still be the Zulfiqar (locally produced badass-tank, seen on the first pics in the first link). T-72s could still be used alongside these, though, as they apparently still have alot of them.

The HMG seen on the second and third pic is an old Soviet classic; the DShK! Used throughout the entire world since WW2. Oh, and yes, that APC is a BTR-60.

Btw, the 'Cobra' attack heli the Iranis use is not exactly the same as the one we've learned to love through Vietnam-movies and games. It's a modified version called the Panha 2091. It's still very similar to the American original, so a slightly modified version of an existing model should be enough.

As I posted in the MEC thread I think that the Middle Eastern factions should only be replaced by 3 factions.

United Arab League
A millitary organization based on the League of Arab States
Persian Islamic Alliance
Equipment based on Iran and other Persian nations
Middle Eastern Coalition
Any countries in the middle east that have separate religions or political ideals from the other 2 factions. This will be the generic ME faction.

EDIT: Since I realized that there is only one Persian nation the name for the second MEC replacement should be, Joint Islamic Federation.

AREM117 wrote:As I posted in the MEC thread I think that the Middle Eastern factions should only be replaced by 3 factions.

United Arab League
A millitary organization based on the League of Arab States
Persian Islamic Alliance
Equipment based on Iran and other Persian nations
Middle Eastern Coalition
Any countries in the middle east that have separate religions or political ideals from the other 2 factions. This will be the generic ME faction.

I think this would be the best solution,it gives the most diverse options and can create a new load of scenarios of a middle east civil war(these 3 faction fighting each other)

In collaboration with UAL and MEC factions, it'd be interesting to see a rematch in the feeling of Iraq vs Iran ; UAL vs IRIA. Radically different assets would be interesting to see fight each other.
But that's just a big brainstorm.

Tannhauser wrote:MEC
Actual MEC with german firearms and lots of russian hardware

UAL
Westernized assets mostly with very few russian arms/vehicles

Iranian armed forces
Well... Iranian assets.

I think that would recategorize better as for asset diversification. But that's only IMO.

I agree with you here, exept MEC should have a different weapon. Iran uses the G3 and it would get a little confusing.

This would be awesome Clear up any confusions hopefully once and for all.

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Have posted a thread with a number of questions on the Iranian Military Forums, but because I havn't got any answer yet I decided to create my own basic design plan in Excel.

Havn't decided about, for example, what UGL, sniper rifle and LMG they should be using but am hoping that the guys over at the Iranian Military Forums will answer these questions.

Thoughts on the design plan?

I suggest possibly adding the Khaybar KH2002 to replace the G3, at least for some kits. I don't think it's standard issue yet, but it gives Iran something unique instead of the same gun the MEC uses. The Steyr HS .50 could be the sniper rifle.
How about adding the F-14A to that plan as Iran's 2-seater fighter/bomber, and the HESA Saeqeh instead of the F-4 as a fighter?
We would probably get away with a reskin of the existing Cobra (at least temporarily) instead of making a new one from scratch.

I don't know, feels like IRIA should have G3s and Khaybars, MEC russian firearms, and UAL M16s... It'd make sense kinda, unless you pit UAL against IRIA instead of MECvsIRIA, to clear confusion (G3 vs G3).

But that would mean giving UAL M16s... That's AREMs call, TBH it'd give more variety than just giving them more AK series that enough factions use already IMO.

My set up

MEC ; Saudi, Oman, Yemen, UAE

UAL ; Iraq, Syria, some african countries

IRIA ; Iran, surrounding shiite muslims

...

MEC ; Westernized equipment, little russian equipment

UAL ; Current MEC stuff

IRIA ; Mix of Khaybars, G3s, AKs, with mostly russian, some western, equipment.

Through the Iran Military Forum I have been directed towards a Iranian colonel that might be willing to help me with a design plan and aswer the questions I have on Iranian Army equipment. Until I've worked out a good design plan I want to know if we have some modellers, etc. that are willing to do some of the stuff listed in the design plan?

The Zulfiqar-3 would be an awesome start! Also, do you know if there are any SIG P226 models just laying around? I think we had one in PR a long time ago... The PC9 pistol used by the Iranian Forces is a copy of the P226.

i personally think mec, insurgents and taliban are more than enough variation.
just imagine that the name of the mec is "iran". the least thing i'd want are more desert-themed maps imo