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[Question] Infantry versus Armor
Posted: 2009-02-14 15:40
by NyteMyre
With the new 0.85 kit system in mind read this hypothetical situation.
You are with your squad on the frontline in Muttrah. Because you're pretty far (say 500 meters) from the closest firebase, you put a rally. You advance another 200 meters into the city and you encounter the enemies APC. Your squad doesn't have a HAT/LAT available, and there's no APC-support or Close Air Support. The APC has spotted you and is hunting you.
So in short, you pretty far away from the closest supply crate and you have an APC on your tails.
What do you do in this situation?
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I think an encounter with an APC in 0.85 is pretty deadly. When it didn't see you, you can let it pass, but if they know you are there...you are pretty much toast. I always find it difficult what to do in this kind of situation. I usually say something like: "Disperse and rendezvous on this location (put marker on map)".
Re: [Question] Infantry versus Armor
Posted: 2009-02-14 15:42
by Rudd
What do you do in this situation?
Hide in the shower
No joke, its like the safest room in the whole building on Muttrah.
At least thats what I tell the people in the squad...they all come in to the shower with me.
Re: [Question] Infantry versus Armor
Posted: 2009-02-14 16:12
by NyteMyre
Muttrah is just an example....
Re: [Question] Infantry versus Armor
Posted: 2009-02-14 16:14
by Jantje|NL^
Dr2B Rudd wrote:Hide in the shower
No joke, its like the safest room in the whole building on Muttrah.
At least thats what I tell the people in the squad...they all come in to the shower with me.
Muwhaha..
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The one and only thing you can do is to tell it's position on side chat and run..
But allways try to have a LAT or HAT -guy in your squad in these situations..
Re: [Question] Infantry versus Armor
Posted: 2009-02-14 16:15
by Rudd
Well if its not muttrah, you are without shower bunkers, and therefore shall die.
I was half joking anyway, just hide wherever you can, small depressions that can only be seen by standing next to them are the best I find. But if the tank/whatever has managed to come on ur pos without you being ready, there really isn't much you can do.
Re: [Question] Infantry versus Armor
Posted: 2009-02-14 16:38
by DankE_SPB
Cant kill it, leave it. Another problem on Muttrah huge difference between BTR and LAV, but its for another thread
APC is not big problem in urban area, if you meet it in the field w\o AT=fail
Re: [Question] Infantry versus Armor
Posted: 2009-02-14 18:26
by Cassius
u russians know something about meeting armor without at in the field eh

Re: [Question] Infantry versus Armor
Posted: 2009-02-14 18:28
by Solid Knight
Die for your country, that's what you do.
Re: [Question] Infantry versus Armor
Posted: 2009-02-14 19:39
by Tomato-Rifle
Just run away from it, jump in the water, get inside buildings, alleyways, if you have a jeep just drive away.
Just hide...
Re: [Question] Infantry versus Armor
Posted: 2009-02-14 21:05
by Michael_Denmark
So in short, you pretty far away from the closest supply crate and you have an APC on your tails.
What do you do in this situation?
Run and hide, use smoke if you got it and try to confuse the crew with it.
But essentially make sure in the first place you don't get caught in such a situation.
- Teamwork - not only with your own squad but with the other squads as well.
- Simplicity - 1 squad cover 1 street in the movement/action direction. 2 squads like that being up front covering 2 flanking streets and 1 squad in their rear covering their Alphas.
- Rest of the team - support/reserves/scouts for the 3 front squads (including an AT/engineer element)
Re: [Question] Infantry versus Armor
Posted: 2009-02-14 22:36
by -Sauso-
use your trusty incendiary nade

takes out all kinds of armor .
Re: [Question] Infantry versus Armor
Posted: 2009-02-14 22:40
by PFunk
On a map where APCs IFVs are a threat never be far from a LAT/HAT. The whole point of those kits is to have something you can do in case you fact an enemy APC.
Say there are no restrictions on how you can handle the situation.
"What would you do against an enemy APC"
Answer: "HAT his ***"
Without organic AT support realistically you shouldn't even be that far ahead of your team. Special forces that operation behind enemy lines where armor can be a threat would carry some AT. And even then they wouldn't be looking to engage that much. They'd stay unseen. Forward infantry need the necessary tools to deal with the likely threats or else its just a waste of tickets.
There is no probable solution to this problem if HATs or LATs aren't available (and you aren't INS that is).
Re: [Question] Infantry versus Armor
Posted: 2009-02-14 23:05
by DankE_SPB
Cassius wrote:u russians know something about meeting armor without at in the field eh
at hard moments, in 0.8 where engies had mines I used to put mine and lay down on it

ppl like roadkills, but this things confused them

Re: [Question] Infantry versus Armor
Posted: 2009-02-14 23:27
by WilsonPL
i got other question, why i cant do any damage to BTR with RKG3 nades.....
Re: [Question] Infantry versus Armor
Posted: 2009-02-15 00:20
by Tirak
In the situation you've got, there's one option, and that's hide. If you're on a map like EJOD or Muttrah, hide in buildings. If you're on a map like Kashan... you're kind of screwed.
Re: [Question] Infantry versus Armor
Posted: 2009-02-15 01:55
by Jigsaw
-Sauso- wrote:use your trusty incendiary nade

takes out all kinds of armor .
Err, it really doesnt...
In this situation you hide, hope it doesnt see you and wait for support. If you're sensible then you will most likely have some form of support available eg. on Muttrah either friendly APC/cobra/HAT equipped squad etc.
Re: [Question] Infantry versus Armor
Posted: 2009-02-15 02:01
by Gunners87
What are you doing out in the open? An infantry squad should always be in conceal, using it's sprint to get into cover whilst moving.
Re: [Question] Infantry versus Armor
Posted: 2009-02-19 00:02
by Arnoldio
lie down in some ditch and pray he passes

Re: [Question] Infantry versus Armor
Posted: 2009-02-19 14:03
by nedlands1
Get a member to jump on top of it whilst the rest of the squad does a runner.
Re: [Question] Infantry versus Armor
Posted: 2009-02-19 15:23
by Wartz
You should have assumed there would be armor in the first place and planned for it. But in the event that such a situation DOES happen, hit the dirt and crawl to the lowest place you can find. You'd be surprised at how blind armor drivers are sometimes

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