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K well played ur mod for a bit now and after a lovely experience on the igi server suppose I may aswell shut them up and post on here, tho as I told them I can't really expect a pleasant resonse despite all this being is feedback on the mod. I just don't like it, and I have been branded a noob, a lamer, a 'vannilla' lover and all kinds for it. While not too happy about that I accept it, cuz in return I also thought the ppl saying it were utter idiots so I guess its a 50/50 affair.
If people actually knew me, read the 'vanilla' BF2 boards etc, you'd actually have noticed that I do strive more realism in BF2, hence why I got this mod a few months back, but I really really do not see the point in it. While I was playing it I've heard ppl moan about 'sad vanilla noobs' going and attacking uncappable spawn points, as this is one of the major problems with 'vanilla' BF2 and is one of the key things the majority of your community has turned to this mod to avoid...but I mean, does it really require a mod to avoid spawn rape? Same for the teamwork aspect of the game, in this mod there is not one single thing that promotes more teamwork than 'vanilla' BF2, except the fact your left dead on the floor for half a min and need more medics, and the fact you have no guns at all, no pistol, very little ammo at all, and need supply players...so really if the only teamwork aspect missing from 'vanilla' BF2 is a few medic paddles and ammo packs then again...why need a mod for it? All I see this mod as is just a very very toned down version of 'vanilla' BF2, bringing it to an almost snails pace. I mean whats realistic about having no pistol? If you want actual realism then the standard kit for the very large majority of armies is to have a pistol with them. Same for vehicles, alot of the maps r scarce for vehicles, but I see alot of the players asking for no armor on servers...all I can see is ppl want less and less of what actually makes BF2 part of the Battlefield franchise, its a shame aswell, I did actually like some of the changes to the armor/AT aspects, especially the APCS, but it seems a large part of the community don't want them, which is really disapointing as it seems the community this mod has attracted are the players who can't handle a bit of speed, all of the young guns who spawn rape etc, and the community desires a bit of team work in the game. So why the mod? All of the things people have said to me (will remind you: spawn rape, armor having an advantage, campers, no teamwork, naff commanders etc etc) can be done by just getting the community together, buy a server or two, get an admin team together and play 'vanilla' BF2 the way you want it to be played, this mod isnt needed, and it certainly is not realistic in the slightest, the only thing is the people who play it, like to play in a certain way. What you really should be doing is offering all the ppl who play BF2 on a whole the chance to play on a normal server with people wanting to play in this, as you call it, 'realistic' manner, and cracking down on the stat padding, spawn raping armor whore noobs, not running away from them. As for what I think could be improved in the mod...I didn't like the sounds, had this discussion with several ppl, some agree, some dont, but I think they sound like paintball guns, they lack the real meat of firing a real gun (which yes, I have done on a large amounts of occasions, more than just a pop pistol aswell) and also feel they seem inacurate in where they r comming from, usually i can pin point a sound pretty quickly in 'vanilla' BF2, I find myself searching for ages now and usually end up giving up and loking for visual targets instead. I also think the weapon kits should be beefed up a bit, i mean a pistol for gods sake please it doesnt hurt the realism factor at all, but when in need of ammo when the suppl players r busy it can make the game a bit more fun having something to fall back on, rather than running about the map with ur knife out. Looking forward to the little bird aswell, its just a shame the only servers i find are again, full of ppl who dont want to use armor/planes etc. Anyway, look forward to the full release as hopefully it will bring in more to this community and get us more servers running ur mod properly rather than the dumb down no armor rubbish, shud change the name tho seriously...realism mod? nothing realistic in this over 'vanilla' BF2 except the communities attitude to playstyes, which in itself is a bad thing as many ppl take it too far.

Aside from your wall of text, I can tell by what you were saying during the game that you hate PR. If you don't like it, then don't play it. It's that simple.

Puntuation and paragraphs are your friend.

Anyway, I saw what you said on the server, and quite frankly it wasn't the least bit constructive. The first thing you said was "I don't understand why they call this a reality mod, it's not the least bit real. These sounds suck". That is neither constructive or helpful, and just caused the entire server to open up into a flame war.

The DEVs here are very helpful and attentive, and listen to all suggestions, as long as they are typed in a legible, respectful manner. Your constant complaining was neither of the two.

It was obvious you didn't like the mod, judging by your comments like "this mod is full of whiners", and "this is a place for people to go who can't keep up with the fast pace of regular bf2". I would suggest from refraining from such comments if you expect to be treated nicely in return.

Finally, in my opinion this mod is the best thing to ever happen to BF2. The fact is vanilla does need a mod, and this mod does change and help alot of aspects of the game. I don't know if you had the chance between all your typing to actually see that guns now have relaistic ballistics, there are blood effects, realistic sounds, no unrealistic artillary or UAV, revamped classes, a teamwork-based game, and so many more changes and drastic improvements that I can't list them all.

You will never see a game as organized as PRMM in the drunken madness of vanilla; a game that consists in a total fantasy world where it takes 5-6 shots to kill a man, a game where tactics and teamwork are skipped by simply running around the map on a rampage capturing irrelevant flags, a game where it takes 4 tank shells to kill an opposing tank. I'll pass on vanilla, but noone is preventing you from returning to it, I'm sure you and I both would like that.

k well all i said in game was the gun sounds were shit n sounded like paintball guns...the mod was shit as it was pointless and the fact it was a no armor server ultimately destroyed the point of the mod, and there was nothing realistic about the mod at all........really didnt read what i said at all did u, see this is the problem ppl just come onto the forum/game etc and put ppl down, all cuz i dont like the mod. I actually slagged the community more off than the mod and gave what I feel are fair suggestions of what was wrong and what needed fixing., if i feel the sounds r naff and the speed is slow i have every right to say it, im sure the vast majority of people wouldnt think twice about slagging EA/DICE off about their game, yet you dont hear a single peep or sqeek out of them when all they have is a massive forum of flame, if you cant take people saying that their opinion on a mod is its ****, shite, unrealistic - what ever discription you want to give it, then dont make a forum with a suggestions section lol, make a 'praise' area. But sadly im sure the developers do listen alot, and if they feel the sound is fine, they wont fix it. Thats their choice, not urs, so dont stop ppl voicing their opinion just cuz u dont like it

So you tell me? What would make this mod more realistic? What is so amazingly unrealistic about it that makes it "shite", just throw around some suggestions buddy.

And for the record, I've shot an M-16, been around for the firing of a SAW, and owned an SVD for quite some time, and I have to say the sounds are almost dead on. My guess is you've never even been near a gun, or experienced warfare at all, yet you still have the nerve to call the mod unrealistic.

This mod was designed by a DEV team wich is in turn comprised of many real military members, one of which is in Afghanistan right now, another was previously stationed in Iraq, and that's just the ones that I know of, I'm sure there are more. So tell me, you're saying that your judgement is better than actual servicemen?

You experienced maybe 15 mins of play, and a server that wasn't all to amazing. How you can possibly think running around like a madman with airsoft-like guns in vanilla is more "realistic" is beyond me.

Real warfare is fought a slow pace, you have to remain under cover, and use slow, steady tactics to advance and secure a position, just as in reality. In vanilla the weapons are so amazingly weak, that you sould just as well briskly stride across the map, alone, grab a flag, and move on, not realistic at all.

If this guy doesn;t start posting postive crcitism such as how the sounds can be changed for example not "this mod sucks, sound sucks you guys suck unspoken but hinted at at strongly. There is such a thing as a ban ghostchanter we know you want a flame war but hey guess what we aren;t going to give you one keep this up a it will be a ban for you. To repeat what I said before we welcome suggestions, constructive critiscm ectr, thats why we have a suggestions sub forum. We do not welcome comments such as this mod sucks, buy a vanilla server and admin it these are not constructive remarks. Constructive remarks are i don;t like the AK sound it is too high pitched can we tone it down a little. To sum up we do not encourage flame war starting, unhelpful criticsm and if you keep it up you will be banned.

AznLB wrote:So you tell me? What would make this mod more realistic? What is so amazingly unrealistic about it that makes it "shite", just throw around some suggestions buddy.

And for the record, I've shot an M-16, been around for the firing of a SAW, and owned an SVD for quite some time, and I have to say the sounds are almost dead on. My guess is you've never even been near a gun, or experienced warfare at all, yet you still have the nerve to call the mod unrealistic.

This mod was designed by a DEV team wich is in turn comprised of many real military members, one of which is in Afghanistan right now, another was previously stationed in Iraq, and that's just the ones that I know of, I'm sure there are more. So tell me, you're saying that your judgement is better than actual servicemen?

You experienced maybe 15 mins of play, and a server that wasn't all to amazing. How you can possibly think running around like a madman with airsoft-like guns in vanilla is more "realistic" is beyond me.

Real warfare is fought a slow pace, you have to remain under cover, and use slow, steady tactics to advance and secure a position, just as in reality. In vanilla the weapons are so amazingly weak, that you sould just as well briskly stride across the map, alone, grab a flag, and move on, not realistic at all.

so basically u want a realism mod so u can sit cowered behind a car, unable to move, cuz the guns r so powerful. Saw very little difference between the weapon powers to be honest, yes maybe slightly more powerful, but nothing that would make me stop and cower at the power of them. If you want a game made by real military veterans then go to...hang on...god dammit why didnt i think of this before...why doesnt the army, the god damm american army, make a game? i mean how much more experience do u want other than the actual army itself making a game? how cool wud that be?! but oh...hang on...they allready did that, and it wasnt a mod for BF2, so maybe you should try that instead, it fits all ur criteria, realistic damange, nice slow steady pace, REAL military veterans overveiwd its development...u a bit slow or do i really need to point out what game u should be playing? give u a clue, it isnt BF2

Ghostchanter wrote:so basically u want a realism mod so u can sit cowered behind a car, unable to move, cuz the guns r so powerful. Saw very little difference between the weapon powers to be honest, yes maybe slightly more powerful, but nothing that would make me stop and cower at the power of them. If you want a game made by real military veterans then go to...hang on...god dammit why didnt i think of this before...why doesnt the army, the god damm american army, make a game? i mean how much more experience do u want other than the actual army itself making a game? how cool wud that be?! but oh...hang on...they allready did that, and it wasnt a mod for BF2, so maybe you should try that instead, it fits all ur criteria, realistic damange, nice slow steady pace, REAL military veterans overveiwd its development...u a bit slow or do i really need to point out what game u should be playing? give u a clue, it isnt BF2

What do you expect!? This is a reality mod!

Running around all RAMBO style isn't realistic.

Do you understand the irony of your posts? Your telling us that it isn't realistic, and now you're saying it is realistic and that we shouldn't play it!

The weapons are entirely revamped, there is not ONE similarity between them and vanilla weapons except for the fact they share the same name. They're accurate, deadly, and have realistic recoil, and NO random cone of fire, exactly how it should be in real life.

If you want a "fast paced game" and don't want to use cover, and just basically run around liek superman, maybe you shouldn't play a game titled freaking REALITYMOD.

Why are you even here? Is your soul purpose for hanging around to tell us our mod sucks, that we're all stupid for playing, and how it is/isn't realistic!?

You're not even trying to be constructive now, your basically telling us we shouldn't have a reality mod! Just leave if it's so damn unbearable for you, please, we all would love to see you go.

Wow ghostchanter that post is so off the mark it's crazy. This is a BF2 mod not a AA mod if we wanted a AA mod we would of made one but hey guess what we didn;t so we made a BF2 mod the way we wanted.
"But sadly im sure the developers do listen alot, and if they feel the sound is fine, they wont fix it. Thats their choice, not urs, so dont stop ppl voicing their opinion just cuz u dont like it" your words they won;t change it if they don;t want to so why are you still harping on about it. It's been said before if you don;t like it play something else or post how to change it to make it better in your opioion.

Thats it there is a pm going to a r-pub right now.

lol if u dont like it, play something else...so when BF2 came out and u didnt like it, why did u bother running off to support a mod? why didnt u just go play something else. And i never mentioned anything about an AA mod retard im saying if u want to boast about how u got fucking army members making ur mod then woopey doo, if thats the best claim to realism u have then like i say, you should all go play AA as it has twice the boasting power a few army people making a mod has, i mean cummon think about it.

lol GTFO if you don't like it. If you think PR has nothing more realistic compared to vbf2......

Keep playing your vBF2.

I like the BF2 concept, large maps and vehicles, AA dosn't have that.

Why do youhave such a problem with us having a reality mod? Can't you just leave? Maybe not play it? It's not effecting you the slightest. Just go back to the untapped maddness of BF2.

What did you expect when you downloaded a mod called Project Reality?

Ghostchanter wrote:lol if u dont like it, play something else...so when BF2 came out and u didnt like it, why did u bother running off to support a mod? why didnt u just go play something else. And i never mentioned anything about an AA mod retard im saying if u want to boast about how u got fucking army members making ur mod then woopey doo, if thats the best claim to realism u have then like i say, you should all go play AA as it has twice the boasting power a few army people making a mod has, i mean cummon think about it.

Look at the underlined section. Don;t worry Cerbues will be stepping in to stop this soon.

This guy is doing a great job of self-ownage.

Ghostchanter, it's obvious that you do not enjoy Project Reality whatsoever. You're not providing any constructive criticism on this forum; you're just trolling. The last thing we need here is a flame war and I recommend you stop all posting a bunch of senseless messages regarding how much "pr sux lololol."

I'm thinking of making a thread which highlights what is, and what isn't a constuctive and informative post. I've finnally found a series of posts that I can use as an example of how to properly put points across and be courteous to a community, thank you Ghostchanter.

It's nice to see more people feeling the need to tell people everything THEY think is wrong with a game they only just played. Thank God your here to enlighten these poor souls who have been playing this mod and enjoying it when it is clearly so appalling.

It's been a while since we've had any "spice" in this forum, so we can thank him for one thing!

Ghostchanter probaly belongs to a bunch of other mod forums where he does exactly the same thing. This is an request of him please tell us where VBF2 does realism better than Project Reality with grammar in a decent paragraph format without endless lol's. This is great 10 people looking at this right now.

OK gents, this post is being locked, as this is just turning into a flame war. I have yet to find anything actually worth the bandwidth you have all used.

Ghostchanter, if you weren't grabbed by the mod, there are dozens more to choose from. But from the community we have, and the feedback we receive, we are happy that we are on that right line. It won't appeal to everyone, like yourself. Unfortunatley you aren't impressed. We will certainly listen to constructive crits, but the above is pointless imo. I will say, however, that your attitude probably didn't help you in your in-game 'chat'.

Take care.

thank you Gaz.