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As maybe all of us I come into situation were I dont know if im gonna have single or automatic on, so i usually put it on Auto. But to my suprise, even if I start to single shoot with Auto the recoil is not the same as if I had Single fire on. I could be wrong? Ive noticed it a couple of times and maybe im wrong !?

If so, whys that? Is it like that in real life or do you not single fire with Auto mode on in real life? And what is real life? Is real life right here now when Im typing or was it 2 second ago when I wrote something else.

No, it's right. The only difference between Single and Auto is the fact that when shooting single, you have to repull the trigger to shoot another shot, whilst shooting on auto is simply holding down the trigger for continual fire.

Since recoil is caused by the force of the explosive pushing the bullet away from the gun, shooting a single bullet, whether on single or on auto, will always produce the same results.

Also, philosophy has rarely (if ever) been properly incorporated within a suggestion for a computer game

The recoil on single shot is not the same as auto or burst fire in real life. That is why it is ingame because it is Project Reality. The DEVs have many military advisors and if something was wrong with the recoil, the DEVs would know.

Umm I think he means this, If you are on single shot the recoil is lets say at number 5. If you are on full auto and you fire a SINGLE bullet then the recoil is 7

alvina wrote:As maybe all of us I come into situation were I dont know if im gonna have single or automatic on, so i usually put it on Auto. But to my suprise, even if I start to single shoot with Auto the recoil is not the same as if I had Single fire on.

crazyasian11 wrote:The recoil on single shot is not the same as auto or burst fire in real life. That is why it is ingame because it is Project Reality. The DEVs have many military advisors and if something was wrong with the recoil, the DEVs would know.

Wait, what? I've never had any more (noticeable) recoil firing a single bullet on semi-automatic than firing a single bullet on full auto.

But, crazyasian, you're talking about the fact that firing a single bullet in semi automatic has less recoil than firing multiple bullets in auto or burst, right? Not quite the same.

It's just a quirk of the BF2 engine and there is nothing that can be done about it.

EDIT: I'm talking about if you compare the muzzle climb from multiple single shots with the same number of shots fired in an automatic burst.

crazyasian11 wrote:The recoil on single shot is not the same as auto or burst fire in real life. That is why it is ingame because it is Project Reality. The DEVs have many military advisors and if something was wrong with the recoil, the DEVs would know.

mr. junior mod over here... You are saying that when you pull the trigger on single shot, then pull the trigger on auto but let out one shot, you get different recoil rates?

I think OP has a point, I don't know this for my self yet, but I will test it out ingame.

I just tested it, hardly noticeable

crazyasian11 wrote:The recoil on single shot is not the same as auto or burst fire in real life. That is why it is ingame because it is Project Reality. The DEVs have many military advisors and if something was wrong with the recoil, the DEVs would know.

In real life an epipen does not magically restore your brain after getting a headshot

It doesnt matter if its hardly noticeble. Thanks for all the replies.

crazyasian11 wrote:The recoil on single shot is not the same as auto or burst fire in real life. That is why it is ingame because it is Project Reality. The DEVs have many military advisors and if something was wrong with the recoil, the DEVs would know.

just out of my personal interest:

IRL the recoil is different for a shot fired in auto and in single?

I assumed auto just had more recoil due to each shot's recoil reinforcing the other...?

Well, it should be the same (for a single shot fired in either mode, right?).

Seeing as recoil should only be caused by the explosif within each bullet, right?

yes... it should be the same if you deploy 3 rounds in semi automatic mode than if you deploy 3 rounds in automatic, if you wait the same time between rounds are fired... in RL

The soldiers in PR only trained with single shot so don't know how to handle there weapons on burst/full auto.

IRL the recoil forces are the same generally if you have consistent rounds, its just that they are quantitative when you are talking about burst full auto fast semi auto, say a single shot has 3lbs of energy, now upon impact the energy will be dropped into the target(depending on how efficient the round is at doing that) now the equal and opposite reaction principle applies here, 3lbs of force is going to go backwards into you through the gun
Now add in fire rate
A slower rate will cause it to seem taht there is more recoil since the shooter has time to return to position before the next shot where a faster rate will cause it to seem like there is less, since after awhile the body won't flex anymore from the recoil, like when you see the guys shooting machine guns they go back but at a certain point they stop going back
This is just a shooter's explaination to it, Im not a math major someone else will have to do that work, but you get the general principle
Also recoil is different amongst the weapons, whats 3lbs in one gun might be less cuase of how heavy the rifle is or how it's shaped and the mechanics in it. And felt recoil is really an opinion, I might say that an M1903 springfield has not that much recoil, while my brother will say it kills in two directions

nick20404 wrote:The soldiers in PR only trained with single shot so don't know how to handle there weapons on burst/full auto.

Eh? Dunno if that was a joke, but I assume most militaries train their infantry to use their rifles in all modes they might have.

Anyway, why are people making this so complicated, he asked a VERY straight forward question: does the recoil of one round differentiate from firing the one round in either single shot or auto/burst mode. Ned already seems to have given a decent answer, weird quirk though, would be interested to know why that occurs.

Yes. Its simple. But I guess that its not a realistic thing in real life to use automode to fire only single shots.

I just happen to get into situations where you are single firing down an enemy and another on comes up and kills you right away, thats why I always are prepared to have automode on, so you can single fire and then be ready to shoot the one who thinks he got you.

Ok I read it wrong.

You are better off keeping your gun on automatic in Urban/close range combat. Keep it on single in open spaces as you might have to take a good shot to save your self. Auto/burst are all bust useless for anything over 50 meters.

BTW what exactly are you suggesting?

AnRK wrote:Eh? Dunno if that was a joke, but I assume most militaries train their infantry to use their rifles in all modes they might have.

Anyway, why are people making this so complicated, he asked a VERY straight forward question: does the recoil of one round differentiate from firing the one round in either single shot or auto/burst mode. Ned already seems to have given a decent answer, weird quirk though, would be interested to know why that occurs.

I imagine it is because the muzzle climb from successive rounds is not accumulative (ie the muzzle climb resets before each subsequent round).

EDIT: I suppose there is a simple and realistic explanation for this. If you are firing single shots you want to be nice and relaxed in order to shoot accurately (the more tense you are the more fatigued you get and the harder it is to maintain a constant position). However if you are shooting bursts of fire you would tend to tense your muscles up more to combat the recoil which would result in a lot less muzzle climb.