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[Weapon] KS-23 Shotgun Carbine

Posted: 2009-03-11 20:04
by DeltaFart
Update #1 March 11th, 2009 4:49 PM EST
Update #2 March 12th 2009, 6:09 PM EST
Update #3 March 12th 2009, 9:37 PM EST
Just waiting for Nosferatu to send me an image of the 4 gauge shell
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New renders I like this set up Z Troop's posteed


Type: pump-action
Gauge: 4 / 23 mm (rifled barrel)
Length: 904 mm / 35,6"
Barrel length: n/a
Weight: 3,8 kg / 8,4 lbs
Capacity: 3 rounds in underbarrel tube magazine

The story of this unusual weapon began in 1970s, when Soviet Ministry of Internal Affairs began the search for an effective anti-riot weapon, to be used during disturbances in prisons. After much research, it was decided to use shotgun-type ammunition of about 4th gauge caliber, which will launch tear-gas grenades to ranges of up to 100-150 meters with significant accuracy. To achieve desired accuracy, it was further decided to use weapon with rifled barrel, and the solution was eventually found in using rejected 23mm aircraft cannon barrels, turned down to slimmer profile to save weight. Basic weapon was designed by TSNII TochMash (central Scientific Research Institute for Precision Machine Machine building, a key Soviet / Russian developer of special-purpose small arms) and produced in small batches at Tula Arms factory. It was adopted by Soviet Militia (Police) and other MVD troops by mid-1980s, along with a wide range of specialized ammunition. At the present time KS-23 is used by Russian law enforcement forces as anti-riot weapon. It also saw some use in certain ex-Soviet republics which are now independent states.
During 1990s attempts were made to produce more compact and maneuverable weapon in the same caliber, for operations in cramped areas (inside buildings). Of two prototypes, KS-23M (with detachable buttstock) and KS-23K (with bullpup layout and box magazine) only the former saw some use.
It is interesting to note that all KS-23 ammunition is of "shotgun" type, with paper shells with brass bases, although, because of rifled barrel, it is type-classified as a "carbine" in Russia. KS-23 stands for "Karabin Spetsialnyj, 23mm - Special Carbine). Later on, to achieve bigger effect with tear-gas grenades, designers produced two types of add-on muzzle mortars of 36mm and 28mm caliber, called "Nasadka-6" and "Nasadka-12" respectively. These mortars are loaded from muzzle with single tear-gas grenade which is launched using special blank cartridge.
The standard range of ammunition for KS-23 includes following rounds:

  • 23mm blank "grenade launching" cartridge
  • 23mm "Barrikada" (Barricade) car-stopping cartridge with solid steel projectile which can easily destroy engine block at ranges of up to 100 meters
  • 23mm "Volna-R" (Wave-R) less-lethal cartridge with rubber ball bullet. Minimum "safe" range is ~40 meters (at closer ranges it can cause serious body damage and death), maximum effective range is about 70 meters
  • 23mm "Cheremukha-7M" (Bird cherry) tear-gas grenade loaded with CN agent. Maximum effective range is about 100-150 meters, tear gas cloud volume is about 50 cubic meters
  • 23mm "Siren-7" (Lilac) tear-gas grenade loaded with CS agent. Maximum effective range is about 100-150 meters, tear gas cloud volume is about 50 cubic meters
  • 23mm "Zvezda" (Star) flash-bang grenade round
  • "Shrapnel-10" and "Shrapnel-25" "lethal" buckshot rounds (max. effective range 10 and 25 meters respectively)
  • 36mm "Cheremukha-6" tear-gas grenade loaded with CN agent; launched using 36mm muzzle mortar and blank cartridge. Grenade weight is ~70g, maximum effective range is 200 meters, tear gas cloud volume is about 60 cubic meters
  • 82mm "Cheremukha-12" "high efficiency" tear-gas grenade loaded with CN agent, for using on open areas; launched using 82mm muzzle mortar and blank cartridge. Maximum effective range is 120 meters
KS-23 is manually operated weapon with rifled barrel and underbarrel tubular magazine. Barrel is locked using rotary bolt with four locking lugs. Bolt carrier is operated by sliding handguard, made of polymer. Trigger is of single action type; manual safety is cross-bolt button located at the front of the trigger guard. Sights are of rifle type, with fixed V-notch rear and drift-adjustable front. Buttstock on KS-23 carbine is made from wood, with rubber buttplate; on KS-23M carbine, there is a separate polymer pistol grip and a detachable metallic butt. Standard accessories include carrying sling and cleaning kit. Optional accessories include removable muzzle-loading mortars of 36mm and 82mm caliber.
Source : Modern Firearms
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Re: KS-23 Shotgun Carbine

Posted: 2009-03-11 20:56
by DeltaFart
update #1 posted

Re: KS-23 Shotgun Carbine

Posted: 2009-03-11 21:02
by ice_killer
dont work YET on the details keep youre focus for now on the main body :)

Re: KS-23 Shotgun Carbine

Posted: 2009-03-11 21:10
by Nosferatu
Yeah, it's simpler weapon than, for example, M4 shotguns but don't let it fool you)

Re: KS-23 Shotgun Carbine

Posted: 2009-03-11 21:13
by DeltaFart
ice_killer wrote:dont work YET on the details keep youre focus for now on the main body :)
yeah thanks, I just wanted to work on something simple first than work on the body next, figure I have the best reference on the front sight so polish it off now.
Also a note, the front sight has been made to resemble the picture more, its not a pyramid as it was before

Re: KS-23 Shotgun Carbine

Posted: 2009-03-11 21:45
by AnRK
Hurry up with it so you can finish the recoilless!!! :p

Pretty odd shotgun though, bet the things none too comfortable to fire.

Re: KS-23 Shotgun Carbine

Posted: 2009-03-11 22:51
by DeltaFart
The recoiless is a fickle situation, I'm not sure if it's worth the effort at hte moment considering noone would use an equivalent in any sense. The closest thing would be the TOW but that's many folds more powerful and guidable so that thing isn't any competition!

Am working on the body now, trying to get the right chamfer on the top to curve it right is hard to be honest but its coming together :D When this thing gets finished I hope the INsurgents get thsi I want to stop Land Rovers and Hummers :D

Re: KS-23 Shotgun Carbine

Posted: 2009-03-11 23:17
by Tannhauser
Alright woohoo! Nice work man, I always thought ''where's the russian shotgun? they must have one!'' and there you are, making the RF shotgun! :D

Like AnRK said, I also can't wait to see the SGP9 for talibans, man that thing will make me play taliban all the time if it gets in .9! :p

Re: KS-23 Shotgun Carbine

Posted: 2009-03-12 01:46
by DeltaFart
Guys the SPG9 is kind of back burner now! Im not sure if it would even get accepted anyway I will finish this than go to my SPG9

Re: KS-23 Shotgun Carbine

Posted: 2009-03-12 08:45
by Glimmerman
Looks promissing but the SPG-9 is a cooler model :)

Re: [Weapon] KS-23 Shotgun Carbine

Posted: 2009-03-12 11:22
by AnRK
I can't see why it wouldn't be accepted, is it not that common/effective or something? Don't see why it couldn't be used as a FH2 style deployable or something.

Re: [Weapon] KS-23 Shotgun Carbine

Posted: 2009-03-12 11:38
by stozzcheese
mate, you take on too many bloody projects =p

Re: [Weapon] KS-23 Shotgun Carbine

Posted: 2009-03-12 17:09
by DeltaFart
Keeps it interesting
M1014 is pretty much done Katarn needs to look at it
SPG9 is needing a redo
KS-23 is further along than the SPG9 percentage wise. I have to do the grip, forearm, inside of body so that there is no see through, the bolt shell and magazine tube

Re: [Weapon] KS-23 Shotgun Carbine

Posted: 2009-03-12 22:14
by DeltaFart
Update 2 posted

Re: [Weapon] KS-23 Shotgun Carbine

Posted: 2009-03-13 01:43
by DeltaFart
With the lack of photos I have i have finished the model! Renders are up cause Im too lazy to do the paint screen shots

Re: [Weapon] KS-23 Shotgun Carbine

Posted: 2009-03-13 07:21
by stozzcheese
look good!

what about the .45 you were making?

Re: [Weapon] KS-23 Shotgun Carbine

Posted: 2009-03-13 11:35
by DeltaFart
Nah not making it atm, after finalisation been done on this Im going to the recoiless rifle

Re: [Weapon] KS-23 Shotgun Carbine

Posted: 2009-03-13 17:13
by DeltaFart
oh yeah sights might not appear lined up, but they are, I just couldn't get a nice picture of that view

Re: [Weapon] KS-23 Shotgun Carbine

Posted: 2009-03-14 04:36
by DeltaFart
Ok new renders for those that don't want to go to the front page:
Also tried something new, made a background scene, makes the render time a ***** and a half but I think it helps with the look, looks better this way
I now present to you my first really rendered scenes
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Re: [Weapon] KS-23 Shotgun Carbine

Posted: 2009-03-14 07:36
by Scot
Looks good mate, but OW MY EYES! Hehe, the bricks do hurt a tad, but overall very nice model :)