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It really sucks when I'm near an BTR-60/BRDM-2 and a god damn crewman jumps out, because BTR-60/BRDM-2 guns can't do nothing against me while I'm behind cover, and shoots me... It's really frustrating and unrealistic. I really hope DEV's will look into this...


Heres my experience:

Happened a few times. First time was in Muttrah, I shoot the BTR-60 with the AT4, crewman jumps out and shoots me. Second time was in Jabal. I was hiding behind a tree, BTR-60 weapons couldn't hurt me, crewmans jumps out, but I shoot him... 2nd crewman jumps out, leaving the BTR-60 unmanned, and WTFPWNORZ me with his low-recoil MP5.

Well the Mp5 in real life doesn't have a lot of recoil, also why are you tank hunting alone you should have a rifleman with you all the time when doing that.

Also well since the mp5 uses the 9mm *Cough **** cough* shouldn't it not even hurt you unless shot in the legs arms or head since 9mm bullets can pierce body armor.

You should be farther away anyway when shooting at tanks. Also the crewman risks getting killed by hopping out. What do you expect? Giving the crewman some big *** rifle just to make sure he can not kill you on close combat? Crewman are supposed to have compact weapons so that they are not in your way while inside a vehicle.

Also well since the mp5 uses the 9mm *Cough **** cough* shouldn't it not even hurt you unless shot in the legs arms or head since 9mm bullets can pierce body armor.

However an MP5 OWNZ in close combat. Also in Real Life it does not matter that much if someone goes full auto on your *** with it he can easily hit unprotected parts like the head or arms.

Well the Mp5 in real life doesn't have a lot of recoil

Did I say MP5 recoil is unrealistic?

also why are you tank hunting alone you

Well, theres was a full squad hiding from the APC... not from a fecking crewman.

Also well since the mp5 uses the 9mm *Cough **** cough* shouldn't it not even hurt you unless shot in the legs arms or head since 9mm bullets can pierce body armor.

You say that 9mm can't hurt me because 9mm can pierce body armor? I don't get what you were trying to say with this sentence.

As I said this MP5 madness is frustrating and UNREALISTIC!!! I don't think a crewman would get out of his vehicle to shoot someone, while the vehicle is in the hot zone.

You should be farther away anyway when shooting at tanks.

IT WAS AN APC! Could you read what I posted? OK, next time when an APC parks 20 m away from me/my squad I will run back 200 m and then engage him

Giving the crewman some big *** rifle just to make sure he can not kill you on close combat?

It's unrealistic to see crewmans jumping out of their vehicle while there are bullets flying around...

This crewman jumping only occurs when they are using BTR-60/BRDM-2.

Didnt happen to me yet. And if they do it and they get killed, they will only have an abandoned APC.

I say remove crewmans weapons.

Then remove the medics rifle aswell, cos you know, if you sneaking up while he is healing someone and he pulls his rifle out and kills you, its just cheap.

etc...


I really haven´t seen this being a big deal, its not even that they can parachute onto you or something. Yeah, the mp5 rox close up, but;

1) Why are you there, you can hear an apc miles away?

2) Why are you there alone?

It seriously has to be a ninja crewman to jump out , get his bearings and shoot you before you can shoot him, especially with other people present...

I can´t see how it is that unrealistic either, if you have to bail from your APC and there is some guy hiding near you you shoot him, in real life, I expect the crewman wouldn´t have this chance, because he would get shot, but thats what your role is...

only occurs when they are using BTR-60/BRDM-2

Might be because, with all due respect, the cannons they have are kind of **** vs other APC cannons that have heat shells etc.

I think it is not unrealistic if crewman jumps out of an apc wich is probably broken when you have shot it whit AT

sakils2 wrote:Did I say MP5 recoil is unrealistic?



As I said this MP5 madness is frustrating and UNREALISTIC!!! I don't think a crewman would get out of his vehicle to shoot someone, while the vehicle is in the hot zone.

Players are hardcoded. If they want to jump out and own your ***, then they can try, at their own risk.

The MP5, which I've fired on full auto many times, has almost no recoil. It's light and very easy to handle. A five year-old could handle it with no issues. It's recoil is realistic in game. Keep in mind that the 9mm round is designed to be fired from weapons 1/4th the size of the MP5. The MP5's inertia will absorb a lot of the force. It's also a shouldered weapon which adds the mass of your torso into the equation as well. I swear, the MP5 is like shooting a paintball gun.

sakils2 wrote:It really sucks when I'm near an BTR-60/BRDM-2 and a god damn crewman jumps out, because BTR-60/BRDM-2 guns can't do nothing against me while I'm behind cover, and shoots me...

Don't get spotted sneaking up in armor then. I second Alex's post, what's next: remove this and that guy's rifle because he shot you?
At the end we'd end up with Project Hello Kitty where everyone hugs each other and the only way to die is getting beaten to death with fluffy balls.

Rico wrote:Players are hardcoded. If they want to jump out and own your ***, then they can try, at their own risk.

x2

if someone in my squad would do it => kiiiiick

[R-CON]Outlawz wrote:remove this and that guy's rifle because he shot you?
At the end we'd end up with Project Hello Kitty where everyone hugs each other and the only way to die is getting beaten to death with fluffy balls.

I'm totally Sigging that. Its true, You should always have someone with you. Also if you shoot an APC you should run as soon as you fire instead of staring at it, hoping it will blow up because you want it too.

Other question is, is mp5 a superior weapon in mec arsenal, i usually choose it instead of g3 and tend to do quite well.

It's only useful up close, and that's realistic. The ammo is already quite limited, and for anything further away than grenade throwing range it's not that good anymore.

Defensive weapons for crewmen should stay. They are there for self defence, and it looks like the weapon has been used for self defence in your example.

If anything, take away another magazine.

sakils2 wrote:

Well, theres was a full squad hiding from the APC... not from a fecking crewman.
Then maybe you should get one or 2 of them to come with and not 1337 lonewolf it if you can't kill someone with an mp5 while you have a m16


You say that 9mm can't hurt me because 9mm can pierce body armor? I don't get what you were trying to say with this sentence.
I used my common sense and figured out he forgot the t to make it can't. Oh wait I forgot being born with common sense is a damn super power.

As I said this MP5 madness is frustrating and UNREALISTIC!!! I don't think a crewman would get out of his vehicle to shoot someone, while the vehicle is in the hot zone.

Yes he would. Let me see, would he rather burn to death in a hot destroying apc or get out where its SAFER and attempt to kill some guys too?


IT WAS AN APC! Could you read what I posted? OK, next time when an APC parks 20 m away from me/my squad I will run back 200 m and then engage him

Wait, your whole squad was with you wwhen the crewmen killed you? Did you all suck or what?


It's unrealistic to see crewmans jumping out of their vehicle while there are bullets flying around...
My statement above ^^

This crewman jumping only occurs when they are using BTR-60/BRDM-2.
Umm no, I always ditch whatever APC I'm in, because I know in about 5 seconds 10 incendiary grenades are going to land on me. Plus it seems like it would be worse in other APCs because of the higher caliber weapons that will drop you faster.

Listen, I know what happened to you, you were so excitied and you shot an APC and the crew jumped out and killed you so you wet your pants and hit ALT+F4 and came here bitching about how unrealistic it is.

es he would. Let me see, would he rather burn to death in a hot destroying apc or get out where its SAFER and attempt to kill some guys too?

It was not burning.

t's unrealistic to see crewmans jumping out of their vehicle while there are bullets flying around...

My statemant above ^^

remove this and that guy's rifle because he shot you?
At the end we'd end up with Project Hello Kitty where everyone hugs each other and the only way to die is getting beaten to death with fluffy balls.

Did I say remove?

Well, if you want to play Project when crewmans ditch their APC's for a LULZ kill be my guest

I guess almost everyone likes this unrealistic "feature"...

Guize if were alive we should stay in this thing, right?

Mate, his bells might have been ringing, or he might have his gun disabled so the only thing to do is jump out, and if he kills you, well then if you have shot your AT4, then you would be on you m16 anyway, so in that case, he just beat you to it, and you have slow reactions, this really isn't a problem.

However, you were just unlucky. That guy wiped out an entire squad with an MP5 it seems. You were unlucky to be very close and unlucky to face a very skilled shooter, as it seems.

Incomplete Spork and [SP-DEV]Scot the APC was functioning. He fired at me with his 14.5mm cannon, jumped out, I heared that thats why I got out of the cover to shoot him, he dolphin dived and shoot me. GOt back in the APC and drove back to main to pick up his body, while my squad was trying to get my LAT kit.


You don't seem do understand that jumping out of a properly functioning APC is UNREALISTIC!


I switched to the M16 when I heared the gunner getting out, by the way.