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Read over this...Some interesting ideas came up along the way
[20:01] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: are you?
[20:01] Cpt. Sniper: am I? heheh
[20:01] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: mkuy then
[20:02] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: would a 25mm HE round detonate if it hit a person?
[20:02] Cpt. Sniper: Id have to say yes on that one
[20:02] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: hmm
[20:03] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: well, would it blow them into pieces?
[20:03] Cpt. Sniper: not into little tiny pieces like you see in hollywood, more like very LARGE chunks, or just a bigass hole
[20:03] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: mmhmm
[20:04] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: oh well
[20:04] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: I wonder if people will get blown up in PR
[20:05] Cpt. Sniper: maybe
[20:05] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: probly not
[20:05] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: BF physics = ****
[20:05] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: even the rag doll sucks, people getting blown in the air every wich way
[20:05] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: a guy flew up in the air when he got shot by an AK
[20:06] Cpt. Sniper: UP into the air or just flew?
[20:06] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: up
[20:06] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: like a grenade had gone off
[20:06] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: probly a bug
[20:06] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: but a bad one at that
[20:06] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: it was in the gameplay video
[20:06] Cpt. Sniper: hmm...maybe just a pre-release buggy thing
[20:06] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: hopefully
[20:06] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: but even then, people shouldnt be getting blown in the air very often
[20:06] Cpt. Sniper: cause usually you will get thrown to the ground if you have a lot of gear on, if you are shot by a rifle
[20:07] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: yeah
[20:07] Cpt. Sniper: each of those bullets feels like 300 pounds hitting you and going thru you
[20:07] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: but like, if a tank shell lands near you, you wont fly up youll get tossed aside
[20:07] Cpt. Sniper: all in a small tiny spot
[20:07] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: yes that would suck
[20:07] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: a lot
[20:07] Cpt. Sniper: yup
[20:07] Cpt. Sniper: tank shells should not have that damn smoke behind them when they shoot
[20:08] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: well thats a BF problem
[20:08] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: do abrams shells really have tracers?
[20:08] Cpt. Sniper: well, technically they arent tracers
[20:08] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: well do the untechnicaly have them
[20:09] Cpt. Sniper: yes ;p
[20:09] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: just wonderin
[20:09] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: well I want BF2 explosions to have lots of smoke and dust
[20:09] Cpt. Sniper: thats what the SABOT shell does. you can see it fire, but the problem in DC is the velocity of it is entirely WAY too slow
[20:09] Cpt. Sniper: yeah
[20:09] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: yeah
[20:10] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: hopefully we can get some realistic velocities
[20:10] Cpt. Sniper: you should not be able to watch it fire into the distance for even 1 second
[20:10] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: 1/2 a second
[20:10] Cpt. Sniper: or less
[20:10] Cpt. Sniper:
[20:10] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: well in BF2 you can see FAR
[20:10] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: like across the map far
[20:10] Cpt. Sniper: thats good
[20:10] Cpt. Sniper: sniping will be much more fun
[20:10] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: wich is IMO the best thing Ive seen so far
[20:10] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: yeah, shooting little dots a mile away will be fun
[20:11] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck:
[20:11] Cpt. Sniper: heheh
[20:11] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: Its all about guided bombs for me
[20:11] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: and afterburners
[20:11] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: you silly little snipers can paint the target, and Ill drop the bomb
[20:11] Cpt. Sniper: guided bombs and lock-on missiles will be the big improvements...and CORRECT ANIMATIONS FOR WEAPONS
[20:11] Cpt. Sniper: thats my big thing
[20:12] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: si si
[20:12] Cpt. Sniper: do you have BFV?
[20:12] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: yeah
[20:12] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: they dont need the pull the charging handle back every time
[20:12] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: just once
[20:12] Cpt. Sniper: cause all those damned weapons are reversed except for the M60, RPD, RPG's, and LAW
[20:12] Cpt. Sniper: its the Car15 and the M16 that bothers me
[20:13] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: ya know whatd be cool
[20:13] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: is if the RPG guys had to have a guy carry the rockets with him, and give them to the RPG guy as he shot
[20:13] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: kinda like how in Red Orchestra you give MG'ers ammo
[20:13] Cpt. Sniper: M4 reload procedure:
remove empty magazine
insert new magazine
press the bolt release
tap the foward assist
[20:13] Cpt. Sniper: yeah that would be cool
[20:14] Cpt. Sniper: more realistic, too
[20:14] Cpt. Sniper: I hope you can give your teammates ammo, like bullets..not just explosives
[20:14] Cpt. Sniper: 1 guy is out of ammo, the other guy who has 2x as much ammo gives him 7.62x39 bullets for his AK
[20:14] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: like tossing a magazine?
[20:14] Cpt. Sniper: basically
[20:15] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: yeah
[20:15] Cpt. Sniper: but it wont work, say if 1 guy has 5.56x45 and the other guy has an empty AK47...
[20:15] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: yeah
[20:15] Cpt. Sniper: maybe PR can do that
[20:15] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: hopefully
[20:15] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: hopefully DICE or EA will get an SDK this time
[20:16] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: as I do believe this is the last BF game
[20:16] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: an SDK will keep it alive much longer
[20:16] Cpt. Sniper: yes
[20:16] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: then PR can do whatever it wants
[20:16] Cpt. Sniper: BF2 is coming with an animation creator, map creator, and some other neat stuff
[20:16] Cpt. Sniper: Animations!!
[20:16] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: animations = pwn
[20:17] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: hopefully BF will alow modders to MAKE people arm/reload weapons when people take them out
[20:17] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: not just click, whip it out in all of .5 seconds and bang
[20:18] Cpt. Sniper: like in AAO...switch the safety off and then fire
[20:18] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: yea
[20:18] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: that means no more RPG whoring
[20:18] Cpt. Sniper: take time to put away the current weapon to get out another
[20:18] Cpt. Sniper: yea!
[20:18] Cpt. Sniper: Im going to save this chat log...interesting ideas
[20:19] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: eh
[20:19] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: psst
[20:19] Cpt. Sniper: psst
[20:19] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: how do you make effects for BF?
[20:19] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: like fire and stuff
[20:19] Cpt. Sniper: I dont know
[20:19] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: neither do I
[20:19] Cpt. Sniper: I cant do effects, just edit skins
[20:19] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: mmhmm
[20:20] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: do you have to model them
[20:20] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: or animate them
[20:20] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: Ill have to find someone who knows
[20:20] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: because I cant figure it out
[20:20] Cpt. Sniper: I think you have to model then create multiple skins that display like a .gif animation
[20:20] Cpt. Sniper: im not entirely sure
[20:21] =[SoR]=Ugly Duck: sounds complicated
[20:21] Cpt. Sniper: im sure it is

Holy **** you guys went over like .... everything!
when did you guys say all of that?

Effects arent animations but particles. They dont contain any textures but îts just a code.

What's this? A developer discussing possible, future mod additions? Outrageous!

I kid, I kid.

You guys are....


























VERY FUNNY AND KOO!! oh and educational

Well, a lot of those things WOULD be very benificial to the mod. And most have been implimented in various ways in other games. Wether or not BF2 can make it happen remains to be seen, but I hope it can.

PS: TY archenemy, Ive been wondering how its done for quite some time.

hat part where he got hit and flew is because he got hit in mid air

I saw the people flying in the video too. But have no fear, i read in an article that this is just a problem they haven't fixed yet.

holy cow that was 20 mins of talking on x fire thats to much ^^

Pffft

A note on the effects of being hit by rounds, a friend of mine served in Croatia and was shot 7 times point blank by 7.62x39 rounds (GPMG runds, AK's use this round). He lived to tell the tail (48th Highlanders) but I can tell you that there is no impact. When shot, its in an instant and often, the reason an individual drops is simply from the shock of being hit. Even .50 cal rounds have been known to in and out without dropping the target (even with collateral to the target being severe and extensive).

In fact, the only time impact is imminent is when the rounds have been "shotgunned". This means a small x has been filed on the end of the round, causing it to explode rather than tumble when it hits the target. (commonly used by Geurillas and thugs. Its against the Geneva Convention....but since when has people who dont fear it obide by it?

Another common misconception is that coating the round in teflon produces a more extreme result, not true. These are called "Cop Killers" because they are far more likely to penetrate bullet proof or flak vests.

Very intresting ideas all sound great, actualy i have seen the aftereffets of a .50 cal sniper rifle, they shot the iraqi in the neck(his head is missing )

I thought the only thing teflon did was simply decrease the friction allowing a higher exit velocity from the barrel.

Tacamo wrote:I thought the only thing teflon did was simply decrease the friction allowing a higher exit velocity from the barrel.

I've been told by a gun plummer (Weapons Technician) that it's meant to decrease friction on the target...

Not solid evidence, just hear-say.