While I know Technicals are used throughout the world, I have never heard of any encountered in Iraq or Afghanistan. From my many friends who have been to both Iraq, and Afghanistan, none of them have ever seen pickup trucks armed with NSV or heavy machine guns of any kind. The Iraq Police had some, but no band of insurgents. I think Technicals should be removed from the Insurgents and Taliban (keep for Chechnyans), as they are not realistic. Yes it would make heavy fighting more difficult for the Insurgents, but they're not supposed to be doing that anyway.
Re: Armed Technicals?
Posted: 2009-04-05 05:39
by TimeMasheen
I believe the remake of technicals they have are to resemble the ones in black hawk down?
Re: Armed Technicals?
Posted: 2009-04-05 05:43
by Fess|3-5|
TimeMasheen wrote:I believe the remake of technicals they have are to resemble the ones in black hawk down?
That doesn't make them realistic for Iraq and Afghanistan.
Re: Armed Technicals?
Posted: 2009-04-05 05:45
by ReadMenace
'National Museum of the US Airforce' wrote:Local Iraqi SWAT commander standing next to an insurgent gun truck that was destroyed after the GBU-12 500-pound hit the trench next to the truck. The insurgents had several vehicle-mounted heavy machine guns. (U.S. Air Force photo)
-REad
Re: Armed Technicals?
Posted: 2009-04-05 07:12
by torenico
And then... the Removal of the Technical will deny alot of wins for the Insurgents.. Technicals are realistic.. i dont see why it should be removed.
Also.. why would you remove the Technical for the INS.. and keep it for the Chechens? I dont get it
It is NGIC's assessment that the use of heavier weapons, such as ground-mounted and vehicle-mounted 12.7-mm DShK and > 14.5-mm ADA guns will probably continue to be used in perceived insurgent safe areas. These weapons are bulky to move around the battlefield and do not facilitate insurgent hit and run tactics currently being employed.Most of these weapons will continue to remain in caches for the near term - It can be expected that if the insurgents believe they have the Coalition on the ropes and they can deal a significant blow these weapons will come out in large numbers.
Re: Armed Technicals?
Posted: 2009-04-05 11:06
by Mongolian_dude
I did ponder the INS and TBN having techincals.
I dont really think it is too realistic, as accounts, videos and literature will tell you that they are not common place in these current theaters of conflict.
Ofcourse, the INS/TBN may have access to 50cals, so all it takes is a some good carpentry and you have yourself a Techie. WIth that said, it think it makes sense to have Techs in lower numbers as they currently are in PR.
Not to mention Technicals are being used in a slightly tardish way, with players fearing less retirbution of death aswell as the rarity of the vehicle, that BluFor players feel with humvees and rovers; as a result we see Technicals being used as battering-rams, combine harvisters and lightening assault vehicles.
Besides, having a 50cal and the RPK is a bit much.
I think perhaps instead the suggested decrease in numbers of the Technical should be countered by the INS/TBN having the ability to place 50cals anywhere on the map, aswel as a single AAA peice, wich would have to bee within 150m of a INS Hideout.
...mongol...
Re: Armed Technicals?
Posted: 2009-04-05 11:10
by AgentMongoose
Just because your friend didn't see any does not mean that there weren't any. Your friend Is not the WHOLE US army- He (possibly she) Is not omniscientt of all Armed Forces personnel. Not to mention Building a technical Like the ones in this game is not that hard. I could make one in my free time if I had the weapons.
Re: Armed Technicals?
Posted: 2009-04-05 11:43
by {UK}Suzeran
[R-MOD]Mongolian_dude wrote:I did ponder the INS and TBN having techincals.
as a result we see Technicals being used as battering-rams, combine harvisters and lightening assault vehicles.
...mongol...
LoooooL Loooo'@L
Re: Armed Technicals?
Posted: 2009-04-05 11:44
by nick20404
Lets get realistic than.
Re: Armed Technicals?
Posted: 2009-04-05 11:50
by UntenablePosition
nick20404 wrote:Lets get realistic than.
GM is going bankrupt, where will they get spare parts for that ?
I have always thought the technicals were balanced by their fragility.
Even if you drive very, very carefully up to the combat zone, it doesn't take much to blow it up and any high speed escape attempt usually ends up in a fireball.
Re: Armed Technicals?
Posted: 2009-04-05 12:00
by Jaymz
@nick : First screenshot you posted is a captured HMMWV.
Re: Armed Technicals?
Posted: 2009-04-05 12:02
by nick20404
[quote=""'[R-DEV"]Jaymz;983976']@nick : First screenshot you posted is a captured HMMWV.[/quote]
Exactly why can't taliban capture light vehicles! you make a great point jaymz.
[quote="UntenablePosition""]GM is going bankrupt, where will they get spare parts for that ?
I have always thought the technicals were balanced by their fragility.
Even if you drive very, very carefully up to the combat zone, it doesn't take much to blow it up and any high speed escape attempt usually ends up in a fireball.[/quote]
Ya, those pot holes will blow you up after a while. Along with being turning the corner into the path of an apc or tank = instant multikill.
Re: Armed Technicals?
Posted: 2009-04-05 12:04
by Cheditor
Theres an idea, take out technicals and give the taliban 1 captured humvee, would make for a great game play element of trying to figure out if that humvee is yours or enemy.
Re: Armed Technicals?
Posted: 2009-04-05 12:22
by masterceo
surely you can't be serious
Re: Armed Technicals?
Posted: 2009-04-05 12:34
by UntenablePosition
Yes, I am serious and stop calling me shirley
Re: Armed Technicals?
Posted: 2009-04-05 13:36
by R.J.Travis
[R-MOD]Mongolian_dude wrote:I did ponder the INS and TBN having techincals.
I dont really think it is too realistic, as accounts, videos and literature will tell you that they are not common place in these current theaters of conflict.
Ofcourse, the INS/TBN may have access to 50cals, so all it takes is a some good carpentry and you have yourself a Techie. WIth that said, it think it makes sense to have Techs in lower numbers as they currently are in PR.
Not to mention Technical are being used in a slightly tarnish way, with players fearing less retribution of death as well as the rarity of the vehicle, that BluFor players feel with Humvee and rovers; as a result we see Technicals being used as battering-rams, combine harvesters and lightening assault vehicles.
Besides, having a 50cal and the RPK is a bit much.
I think perhaps instead the suggested decrease in numbers of the Technical should be countered by the INS/TBN having the ability to place 50cals anywhere on the map, as well as a single AAA piece, which would have to be within 150m of a INS Hideout.
...mongol...
I would have to agree with Mongol about reducing the numbers as of right now they are used 90% as a mobile AA battery and the iron site lacks a back ring there for can be easily shoot when moving unlike the Humvee witch the ring blocks your view.
I would also like to see the tracer rounds removed from all 50cals coalition and INS so there not killing choppers going max speed 400 meters away.
Just my thoughts.
Re: Armed Technicals?
Posted: 2009-04-05 13:58
by Eddie Baker
By definition a technical is armed.
Iraqi and Afghan National Police use pick-up trucks with pintle mounts in the flatbed, usually with PKMs. Sometimes you see the passenger side windshield split and a second weapon mounted there, too.
Here's one photo, but a Google search or a search on one of the DoD sites will land you many more.
nick20404 wrote:Exactly why can't taliban capture light vehicles! you make a great point jaymz.
Nice try, but already suggested and not going to happen.
