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I've watched alot of youtube videos, and tested this out a lot on training servers

A-10 is fine how it is but here is a few changes that would make it more effective on its Main gun the GAU-8.

1. The spread on the Gau-8 appears to be real small, as if its extremely accurate.
It would increase its effectiveness if it had a slight deviation, enough to where if fired @ 1000m distance it would be 2x the diameter of a grenade explosion.

2. Anti Air warning sounds are the exact same as normal bf2, and I believe they sound different in real life. Although I could be wrong here is a video

that isnt a AA warning. And I dont believe thats a lock warning, because theres only a warning when you get locked on by a radar system. And i dont think that the Taliban or some of those bas**** got S-300 sites, Tunguskas or ZSU's. That warning could be a angle of attack warning, or a g - limit warning, something like this.
I still wonder why there is a warning against heat-seeking missiles in PR ...
correct me if im wrong^^

edit:
sorry, just read "in iraq"; possible thats a radar warning but i think, normally thes sound different.

I know it may not be AA warnings, but it would be a nice touch (not sure bout realism) if we had a different sounding AA warning

Surely even if the missile is heatseaking most modern jets may have radar systems that detect missiles or incoming objects. Atleast if I was an Engineer I would hva slapped that on, I mean a jet these days is a jet motor, some metal and a huge computer.

Zimmer wrote:Surely even if the missile is heatseaking most modern jets may have radar systems that detect missiles or incoming objects. Atleast if I was an Engineer I would hva slapped that on, I mean a jet these days is a jet motor, some metal and a huge computer.

Hmm you may be right, but the a-10 hasnt got a radar, it can only gives a warning if it gets locked on by a radar... (i think its called RWR) and i dont think that a radar can localize a missile in mid-air because it has such a small surface. Usually the RWR is getting you the warning, not ur radar.

Zimmer wrote:Surely even if the missile is heatseaking most modern jets may have radar systems that detect missiles or incoming objects. Atleast if I was an Engineer I would hva slapped that on, I mean a jet these days is a jet motor, some metal and a huge computer.

Im a huge Falcon 4.0 player and Il tell you this, the F-16 Fighting Falcon CANNOT detect heat seeking missiles. The RWR system ONLY detects radar guided missiles. Thats why you see fighters and military planes popping flares like crazy after a bombing run, just as a precaution. However, it does track a radar guided missiles path of flight. The radar guided missile is treated just like any other plane on the RWR so the pilot can get an idea which direction its comming from.

Dragonfire43560 wrote: However, it does track a radar guided missiles path of flight. The radar guided missile is treated just like any other plane on the RWR so the pilot can get an idea which direction its comming from.

i think ur wrong here.
the rwr doesnt track the missile, but it can only track the radar beam of the opponent jet, so you see only the plane on the RWR or the TEWS and you hear and see the warning if it launches a missile.
btw im a huge Lock On player

Not an AA warning, but just going by what i heard on lock-on it sound more like a G force warning or something with the angle of attack.

but besides that the Gau-8 needs to be fixed as you said because they are very accurate for there size and for the platform they are on.

JohnTheRipper wrote:Not an AA warning, but just going by what i heard on lock-on it sound more like a G force warning or something with the angle of attack.

but besides that the Gau-8 needs to be fixed as you said because they are very accurate for there size and for the platform they are on.

yeah think youre right. the gau 8 could also needs a more accurate HUD, so you can aim good enough for pinstrikes on enemy tanks.
an edit for my last post:
You can only see where the enemy plane is, if you got a TEWS in your cockpit. a RWR is only informing about the direction. the TEWS shows the theoretical distance (by calculating the intensity of the radar waves).

one last time:
There is NO warning against heet seeking missiles, the warning in the video is about the G limit or the angle of attack.

Zoddom wrote:one last time:
There is NO warning against heet seeking missiles, the warning in the video is about the G limit or the angle of attack.

There is no lock-on warning, but there is a launch warning if the aircraft has a missile warning system that detects the heat plume of a fired missile.

[R-DEV]Eddie Baker wrote:There is no lock-on warning, but there is a launch warning if the aircraft has a missile warning system that detects the heat plume of a fired missile.

only heard of this in a cold war documention... the american satelites could see any flash of launched rockets... but i dont know about a fighterjet with this system

Didn't you guys hear? in .9 we will have a brand new first sight alert system and it only takes 1 rack up.

Zoddom wrote:only heard of this in a cold war documention... the american satelites could see any flash of launched rockets... but i dont know about a fighterjet with this system

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If you look around in the sound files for the f16, the folder is pretty much copied from Falcon 4 Allied Force.

IMO, it would be pretty realistic if a radar was implemented, (much like BFV) but without the actual radar display. Whenever anything that would show up on the vBF2 hud is detected, then that TwsSrch.wav sound should play. In F4, that sound plays whenever any radar emmisions are detected. It is usually accompanied by a short and distinct beep that signifies what kind of unit is using the radar. Seeing that we don't have those beeps in the PR folder already... (theres a ton of them) I think the TwsSrch sound would be best.

I also think that the vBF2 fire warning for air units should be changed to the WARNING.wav sound in that same folder, sounds very realistic and its what the F16 plays when it is heavily damaged (you should start thinking about ejecting once you hear that dreaded "boop boop boop warning, warning" go off)

Just my two cents....

redmonky91 wrote:If you look around in the sound files for the f16, the folder is pretty much copied from Falcon 4 Allied Force.

IMO, it would be pretty realistic if a radar was implemented, (much like BFV) but without the actual radar display. Whenever anything that would show up on the vBF2 hud is detected, then that TwsSrch.wav sound should play. In F4, that sound plays whenever any radar emmisions are detected. It is usually accompanied by a short and distinct beep that signifies what kind of unit is using the radar. Seeing that we don't have those beeps in the PR folder already... (theres a ton of them) I think the TwsSrch sound would be best.

I also think that the vBF2 fire warning for air units should be changed to the WARNING.wav sound in that same folder, sounds very realistic and its what the F16 plays when it is heavily damaged (you should start thinking about ejecting once you hear that dreaded "boop boop boop warning, warning" go off)

Just my two cents....

Yeah they are from F4. Funny thing is that I went threw my falcon 4 sound folder and went over hose sounds

I really don't think there should be a warning. Or is there some kind of lock sensor?

aperson444 wrote:I really don't think there should be a warning. Or is there some kind of lock sensor?

A few posts up.

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guys reality is one part...

But the AA´s are so good in pr, how you would fly without warning...?

Or give the pilots much more flares...

Or you want a jet that lands every 2 min because he runs out of flares?

And dont forget, normal a jet has a radar, and a much better intel of whats going on on the ground...

@bsurd wrote:guys reality is one part...

But the AA´s are so good in pr, how you would fly without warning...?

Or give the pilots much more flares...

Or you want a jet that lands every 2 min because he runs out of flares?

And dont forget, normal a jet has a radar, and a much better intel of whats going on on the ground...

Agreed, also I think I read somewhere on the forums where you could slightly change the time you can fire from when you here the "lock" sound on anti air (when your the anti air) to the time you can fire?

example: beep beep beep beep beeeeeeep(2seconds till you can shoot)

This would allow the pilot 2 seconds to pop his flares to try and avoid it.

Pilots don't deserve time to flare if they have flown into a threat unprepared. Flares should be used as a precaution, not a win button.