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Something i don't quite understand???

Posted: 2009-04-13 22:29
by JohnTheRipper
No the sniper rifles us the 7.62mm and the .308 which from what i saw in picture look really the same, but someone i don't understand about that is why the G3, Lee Enfield, some marksman rifles like the m24 and the armor machine guns kill in one hit like the sniper rifles even thou they are using the same ammo.

can someone clear this up for me because it just doesn't make any sense in my head.

Re: Something i don't quite understand???

Posted: 2009-04-13 22:34
by nick20404
The G3 uses 7.62x51mm NATO.

Pretty sure the Lee enfield uses the .303.

M24 - 7.62 × 51 mm NATO, .300 Winchester Magnum, and .338 Lapua Magnum (M24A3)

Re: Something i don't quite understand???

Posted: 2009-04-13 22:35
by gazzthompson
the armor machine guns are 50.cal

dont quite understand the rest

Re: Something i don't quite understand???

Posted: 2009-04-13 22:37
by JohnTheRipper
nick20404 wrote:The G3 uses 7.62x51mm NATO.

Pretty sure the Lee enfield uses the .303.

M24 - 7.62 × 51 mm NATO, .300 Winchester Magnum, and .338 Lapua Magnum (M24A3)
still they are roughly the same size.

also i mean the main gunners secondary machine gun which fires the 7.62mm round well atleast according to the hud.

Re: Something i don't quite understand???

Posted: 2009-04-13 22:44
by Spec
i don't understand about that is why the G3, Lee Enfield, some marksman rifles like the m24 and the armor machine guns kill in one hit like the sniper rifles even thou they are using the same ammo.
You mean that they DONT kill in one shot even though they use the same ammo? And the M24 is a sniper rifle, not a marksman rifle.

I've not touched a sniper rifle for very long, but I thought it would not even kill in one hit (head excluded of course)?

Re: Something i don't quite understand???

Posted: 2009-04-13 22:48
by JohnTheRipper
Spec_Operator wrote:You mean that they DONT kill in one shot even though they use the same ammo? And the M24 is a sniper rifle, not a marksman rifle.

I've not touched a sniper rifle for very long, but I thought it would not even kill in one hit (head excluded of course)?
yeah you have the idea, also yeah simple mistake it's the m21 right.

Re: Something i don't quite understand???

Posted: 2009-04-13 22:49
by nick20404
.303

Bullet weight/type Velocity Energy
150 gr (9.7 g) SP 844 m/s (2,770 ft/s) 3,463 J (2,554 ft·lbf)
174 gr (11.3 g) HPBT 761 m/s (2,500 ft/s) 3,265 J (2,408 ft·lbf)
180 gr (12 g) SP 783 m/s (2,570 ft/s) 3,574 J (2,636 ft·lbf)

7.62x51mm

Bullet weight/type Velocity Energy
146.6 gr (9.50 g) 2,756 ft/s (840 m/s) 2,472 ft·lbf (3,352 J)

.300 Winchester magnum (Don't know if the m24 in game uses this round or not.)

Bullet weight/type Velocity Energy
165 gr (10.7 g) Nosler partition 3,050 ft/s (930 m/s) 3,408 ft·lbf (4,621 J)
180 gr (12 g) Nosler partition 2,960 ft/s (900 m/s) 3,502 ft·lbf (4,748 J)
190 gr (12 g) BTHP 2,900 ft/s (880 m/s) 3,548 ft·lbf (4,810 J)
150 gr (9.7 g) SP 3,290 ft/s (1,000 m/s) 3,605 ft·lbf (4,888 J)
200 gr (13 g) SP 2,700 ft/s (820 m/s) 3,237 ft·lbf (4,389 J)

Re: Something i don't quite understand???

Posted: 2009-04-13 22:52
by Alex6714
gazzthompson wrote:the armor machine guns are 50.cal

dont quite understand the rest
I am pretty sure the coaxial is 7.62?

Re: Something i don't quite understand???

Posted: 2009-04-13 22:57
by nick20404
Alex6714 wrote:I am pretty sure the coaxial is 7.62?
It is 7.62. Pretty sure he meant the gun on top.

Re: Something i don't quite understand???

Posted: 2009-04-13 22:58
by SkaterCrush
Well I know .338 Lapua is a dual purpose anti material and an anti personnel round, which makes it all hte more deadly

Re: Something i don't quite understand???

Posted: 2009-04-13 23:25
by ReadMenace
JohnTheRipper wrote:*snip*even thou they are using the same ammo.
*snip*
They may be chambered in the same caliber, but that does not mean they're using the same ammunition. A good example is the Mk12 (No longer in-game), which while chambered for 5.56x45 --the same cartridge used in the M16, M4, M249 etc-- is fielded with Mk262 ammunition, which is far more lethal than the standard M855.

-REad

Re: Something i don't quite understand???

Posted: 2009-04-14 11:18
by Masterbake
Normally the gun is pretty important too :D