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[Weapon] HK416 versions Dutch, Norwegian, PSC

Posted: 2009-04-14 18:45
by Z-trooper
First of all, please don't post stuff in this thread unless you are involved in developing the Dutch, Norwegian or PSC community mods.


Right, it seems that these 3 factions need the HK416 and the fewer versions of 416's we could end up with, the better. So this is my last attempt to gather a list of all the versions needed.

Would the leads or assistants please post a final list of the versions you will need for your mod.

Please fill this out for EACH version of the HK416 you will need.

[Barrel]
[Sights]
[Accessories]
[Texture]

Barrel examples; short, standard, long
Sights examples; iron sight, eotech, aimpoint, acog, elcan ect ect ect
Accessories examples; frontgrip, M203, AG36, flashlight ect
Please do not hold back on the details!
Stuff like that. I don't know the details of you guys faction loadouts, so please inform us in here.

The sooner I get a final list, the sooner you guys can hope to have them ingame.

Dutch list

[Barrel] Standard
[Sights] EoTech or Aimpoint
[Accessories] Front Grip
[Texture] Standard, Black

Norwegian list

[Barrel] Standard
[Sights] EoTech
[Accessories] Front grip
[Texture] Camo


[Barrel] Standard
[Sights] Aimpoint
[Accessories] Front grip
[Texture] Camo


[Barrel] Standard
[Sights] ACOG
[Accessories] Front grip
[Texture] Camo

PSC list

[Barrel] Short
[Sights] EoTech
[Accessories] N/A
[Texture] Standard, Black

[Barrel] Short
[Sights] Iron sight
[Accessories] N/A
[Texture] Standard, Black


Final list

[Barrel] Standard
[Sights] EoTech or Aimpoint
[Accessories] N/A
[Texture] Standard, Black

[Barrel] Standard
[Sights] EoTech
[Accessories] Front grip
[Texture] Camo

[Barrel] Standard
[Sights] Aimpoint
[Accessories] Front grip
[Texture] Camo

[Barrel] Standard
[Sights] ACOG
[Accessories] Front grip
[Texture] Camo

[Barrel] Short
[Sights] EoTech
[Accessories] N/A
[Texture] Standard, Black

[Barrel] Short
[Sights] Iron sight
[Accessories] N/A
[Texture] Standard, Black

Re: [HK416 versions] Dutch, Norwegian, PSC

Posted: 2009-04-14 19:30
by Pte.Paynter
I just messaged glimmermen hes set to way but will be posting what we need for the DAF Faction thank you.

Thought I would let you know. :-P

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

Re: [HK416 versions] Dutch, Norwegian, PSC

Posted: 2009-04-14 19:40
by Rhino
Pte.Paynter wrote:I just messaged glimmermen hes set to way but will be posting what we need for the DAF Faction thank you.

Thought I would let you know. :-P

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:
Enjoy your 24hr temp ban.

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Re: [HK416 versions] Dutch, Norwegian, PSC

Posted: 2009-04-14 19:42
by FPaiva
I can't tell much thing about our version because everytime KP or halvor1 comes to me saying that i need to change something, so it better to wait for the final, right?

Re: [HK416 versions] Dutch, Norwegian, PSC

Posted: 2009-04-14 19:45
by Z-trooper
MaFiA_do_OsAmA wrote:I can't tell much thing about our version because everytime KP or halvor1 comes to me saying that i need to change something, so it better to wait for the final, right?
Same thing here. I have asked 3-4 times for that list now, hoping this will spike some attention, or else I guess we will carry on without them. I don't want to waste any more time on this than I already have.

Re: [HK416 versions] Dutch, Norwegian, PSC

Posted: 2009-04-14 19:51
by Glimmerman
The version we need/use is the black version with a eotech, but i dont think Martin would mind if it became a aimpoint.

Re: [HK416 versions] Dutch, Norwegian, PSC

Posted: 2009-04-14 19:54
by Z-trooper
[R-CON]Glimmerman wrote:The version we need/use is the black version with a eotech, but i dont think Martin would mind if it became a aimpoint.
So no front grip?

Re: [HK416 versions] Dutch, Norwegian, PSC

Posted: 2009-04-14 19:55
by ice_killer
agree whit glimmerman, the ECO teck is the nromal load out for the dutch but a aimpoint will settle too (at least for me)

Re: [HK416 versions] Dutch, Norwegian, PSC

Posted: 2009-04-14 19:58
by Wilkinson
Since I am taking a quick break from mapping I'll help Wally.
PSC FORCES:
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(Left to right for HK416)
MP5(driver)
Hk416, short barrel, ironsight, standard magazine, standard black texture(Medic)
Hk416, standard Barrel, ironsights, standard mag, standard Black Texture, Front Grip(Basic Rifleman)
Hk416, Standard Barrel, Basic (2x or 4x?) Zoom , Standard mag, Black texture, Front Grip(Basic Rifleman)
Hk416, Standard Barrel, Basic (2x or 4x?) Zoom , Standard mag, Black texture(PSC Leader)
Hk416, Standard Barrel, Extended (4x-6x?) Zoom, Standard mag Black texture.(Marksman?)


All kits get Glock 17 as well. I can't remember Other items to be exact.

Re: [HK416 versions] Dutch, Norwegian, PSC

Posted: 2009-04-14 20:00
by FPaiva
For now i can post a list of every variant that i've been informed to the Norwegians. Do you want images or just the list?

Re: [HK416 versions] Dutch, Norwegian, PSC

Posted: 2009-04-14 20:11
by Z-trooper
Alright guys, thank you for your replies. But all this chatter is not what I need.

What I do need is KP/Halvor, Wally to give me a final list.

Everything else is just useless I'm afraid. If it is not a final list I can't very well use it for anything.

EDIT:
Change of plans.


Please fill this out for EACH version of the HK416 you will need.

[Barrel]
[Sights]
[Accessories]
[Texture]

Barrel examples; short, standard, long
Sights examples; iron sight, eotech, aimpoint, acog, elcan ect ect ect
Accessories examples; frontgrip, M203, AG36, flashlight ect

Re: [HK416 versions] Dutch, Norwegian, PSC

Posted: 2009-04-14 22:16
by spartan117gw
id reccomend not using the elcan. i have one for my saw and i hate it. one of the reflex sight / m68cco eotech or somthing would work just fine.

Re: [HK416 versions] Dutch, Norwegian, PSC

Posted: 2009-04-14 22:27
by Z-trooper
'[R-DEV wrote:Z-trooper;992248']First of all, please don't post stuff in this thread unless you are involved in developing the Dutch, Norwegian or PSC community mods.
If you have recommendations I suggest you take it up with the faction developers and their military advisers.

I am simply trying to get a final answer for what to export.

I am growing a little tired of this business. Community work is starting to have a very little place in my future after affairs such as this.

How hard can it be to tell me what people need ingame? Seriously.
The dutch I am in fine contact with, but stuff like the norwegians I have tried multiple times to get an answer and was ignored.

I made a promise to Glimmer and Martin to do the glock and their HK416 and they have cooperated fine, hence I will do their versions. I suggest the norwegians start looking for someone to export their versions. Let me know who and that person can get the export scene I will create for the Dutch.

I have no prior experince with Wally and the rest of PSC, so I will wait and see what they need... Other than "4x-6x magnification" whatever that is (not an attack on you Wilkinson)

I guess I have to play hardball to get some respect around here.
I is not like I don't have anything else to do.

End of story. No more Mr. Nice guy.

And once again

NO MORE COMMENTS UNLESS YOU ARE A FACTION LEADER, next ones WILL get infractions!

Re: [HK416 versions] Dutch, Norwegian, PSC

Posted: 2009-04-15 06:41
by halvor1
HK416 w/EO-Tec /frontgrip + Camo

HK416 w/Aimpoint/frontgrip + camo

HK416 w/ACOG/frontgrip + camo

HK416 w/Aimpoint+Magnifier/frontgrip + camo

+ all will have flash lights!

mafia care to post images of all these variants?

Re: [HK416 versions] Dutch, Norwegian, PSC

Posted: 2009-04-15 06:49
by Glimmerman
O **** forgot to say we also need the front grip on it.

Re: [HK416 versions] Dutch, Norwegian, PSC

Posted: 2009-04-15 07:24
by Z-trooper
Got what we needed, thanks.

/Closed

Re: [HK416 versions] Dutch, Norwegian, PSC

Posted: 2009-04-15 07:32
by Rhino
[R-CON]halvor1 wrote:+ all will have flash lights!
No, they will not. Just because you have a few refs with them on doesn't mean that they should be added ingame.

In real life, the L85 very often has a Flash Light also mounted onto it, picys:
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If you watch Ross Kemp in Afghanistan, epically the newest series you will see loads of them on the L85A2s.

Now, why do we not have them ingame?

I will tell you why, because they offer NOTHING to the gameplay, in fact, having them there only obstructs your view.

IF they worked ingame I would like to see them in YES but the fact is THEY DO NOT WORK and as for that, they are pointless.

Either change your design plan or you can forget about the Norwegians getting into PR.

Re: [HK416 versions] Dutch, Norwegian, PSC

Posted: 2009-04-15 19:36
by KP
They're standard issue on the 416s, mind. Sort of like the SUSAT on the L85, or the Aimpoint on the M4. Those add something to the gameplay, though.

Also updated Halvor's post because he forgot a version.

Re: [HK416 versions] Dutch, Norwegian, PSC

Posted: 2009-04-15 19:58
by Rhino
[R-MOD]KP wrote:They're standard issue on the 416s, mind. Sort of like the SUSAT on the L85, or the Aimpoint on the M4. Those add something to the gameplay, though.
If they are standard issue and they are basically always on and its not just for making it look "special forces" kinda thing which was the impression I was getting then ye, would be fine.