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[Mini-mod] Combined Arms

Posted: 2009-04-15 22:04
by Elektro
If you didnt allready know, this thing called combined arms ( CAS ) is a modification of PR, its quite good if you ask me, just take a look at the films.

But whats the deal? Why make a mod for a mod ? They have same initiatives : Realisim.. Why not add theise things to PR instead of making a mod for it.

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Re: PR combined Arms ? A mod for a mod ? wtf !?

Posted: 2009-04-15 22:18
by Neo_Mapper
looks good, where can I download this? x)

btw is this a remake of wake island? =O

would like to see this ingame =)

Re: PR combined Arms ? A mod for a mod ? wtf !?

Posted: 2009-04-15 22:18
by HughJass
why do anything in life? why to live....


anyway.. it is just people trying out new stuff for PR. nothing new.

Re: PR combined Arms ? A mod for a mod ? wtf !?

Posted: 2009-04-15 22:23
by space
The top attack feature would be great for HAT kits. Afaik, in real life, weapons such as the Javelin have two firing modes - top attack, and direct attack.

Re: PR combined Arms ? A mod for a mod ? wtf !?

Posted: 2009-04-15 23:18
by PlatinumA1
Such work shouldn't be in PR. It will ruin teamwork!!!

Re: PR combined Arms ? A mod for a mod ? wtf !?

Posted: 2009-04-15 23:32
by waldo_ii
From what I understand, the PR Dev team and CAS_117 have had disagreements on what should be and should not be in the mod, so CAS_117 is making this so his idea of what PR should be can come true.

Re: PR combined Arms ? A mod for a mod ? wtf !?

Posted: 2009-04-15 23:32
by Tahanatos
PlatinumA1 wrote:Such work shouldn't be in PR. It will ruin teamwork!!!
How can realistic missles ruin teamplay :confused:

Re: PR combined Arms ? A mod for a mod ? wtf !?

Posted: 2009-04-15 23:38
by nick20404
waldo_ii wrote:From what I understand, the PR Dev team and CAS_117 have had disagreements on what should be and should not be in the mod, so CAS_117 is making this so his idea of what PR should be can come true.
It looks great! I will def download if it ever comes to the public.

Re: PR combined Arms ? A mod for a mod ? wtf !?

Posted: 2009-04-15 23:40
by OldGoat5
PlatinumA1 wrote:Such work shouldn't be in PR. It will ruin teamwork!!!
How would realism ruin teamwork? more realism means more teamwork since in real life you need teamwork...

Re: PR combined Arms ? A mod for a mod ? wtf !?

Posted: 2009-04-15 23:43
by Kirra
PlatinumA1 wrote:Such work shouldn't be in PR. It will ruin teamwork!!!
No it wouldn't. It would make teamwork more important if anything. No more driving off alone without AA on Kashan.

Re: PR combined Arms ? A mod for a mod ? wtf !?

Posted: 2009-04-15 23:47
by Fluffywuffy
OldGoat5 wrote:How would realism ruin teamwork? more realism means more teamwork since in real life you need teamwork...
It was sarcasm for what Cas and the Project Reality devs disagree on.



I'm not taking sides.

Re: PR combined Arms ? A mod for a mod ? wtf !?

Posted: 2009-04-15 23:52
by CallMeSnowflake
I like what I saw in both of those videos, to be honest. I'm sure there are other aspects of this "mod" that I'm not aware of but yeah, I like what I've seen.

Re: PR combined Arms ? A mod for a mod ? wtf !?

Posted: 2009-04-15 23:52
by waldo_ii
OldGoat5 wrote:How would realism ruin teamwork? more realism means more teamwork since in real life you need teamwork...
Getting CAS in now-PR:
- A-10 flies around in a holding pattern until a squad leader says there is a target that needs bombing
- Squad leader lases the target and gives coordinates to the A-10 pilot. Possibly even through the commander using markers.
- A-10 flies down to bombing alittude and drops the bomb.
- Squad leader confirms the hit or says it is a miss.

As you can see, proper communication and a willingness to work together with other people was necessary in order to be effective. Teamwork.




Getting CAS in the Combined Arms mod.
- You don't because the A-10 was lonewolfing and annihilating everything on the map before they even had a chance to do anything.




My opinion is this: While the combined-arms mod may be more realistic, PR certainly isn't on the proper scale for realism. In real life, the A-10 could be patrolling an area of 160 squad kilometers, and armor could be separated and hidden, maybe two tanks in 16 squad kilometers. In Kashan, there are usually a dozen tanks in a 16 squad kilometer zone. Something such as the radar function, while realistic and in use in real life, is overpowering because of the scale. In real life, the infantry would relay the approximate location to the A-10 before it comes in. In Kashan, the entire map is the approximate location.

The mod may be more realistic, but it doesn't provide the teamwork-oriented atmosphere that makes me love PR. A lot of work has obviously gone into CAS's Combined Arms mod, but it just isn't my flavor.

Re: PR combined Arms ? A mod for a mod ? wtf !?

Posted: 2009-04-15 23:55
by CallMeSnowflake
waldo_ii wrote:Getting CAS in now-PR:
- A-10 flies around in a holding pattern until a squad leader says there is a target that needs bombing
- Squad leader lases the target and gives coordinates to the A-10 pilot. Possibly even through the commander using markers.
- A-10 flies down to bombing alittude and drops the bomb.
- Squad leader confirms the hit or says it is a miss.

As you can see, proper communication and a willingness to work together with other people was necessary in order to be effective. Teamwork.




Getting CAS in the Combined Arms mod.

- You don't because the A-10 was lonewolfing and annihilating everything on the map before they even had a chance to do anything.
How do you know this about the CAS mod? I can't understand how realistic deviation degrades the quality of the mod...Which leads me to believe that you know far more about the mod than I learned from the video.

So that I can draw a detailed and appropriate conclusion, would you care to post a link to where I can find more out about this mod?

Re: PR combined Arms ? A mod for a mod ? wtf !?

Posted: 2009-04-15 23:59
by JohnTheRipper
well the bomber being able to lock-onto stuff, is kidda a no for PR. but the strike eagle and the radar screen as well as the targeting screen which was used to lock onto that tank (without the auto lock on thing) can be PR acceptable things i bet.

Re: PR combined Arms ? A mod for a mod ? wtf !?

Posted: 2009-04-16 00:00
by Scot
waldo_ii wrote:Getting CAS in now-PR:
- A-10 flies around in a holding pattern until a squad leader says there is a target that needs bombing
- Squad leader lases the target and gives coordinates to the A-10 pilot. Possibly even through the commander using markers.
- A-10 flies down to bombing alittude and drops the bomb.
- Squad leader confirms the hit or says it is a miss.

As you can see, proper communication and a willingness to work together with other people was necessary in order to be effective. Teamwork.




Getting CAS in the Combined Arms mod.

- You don't because the A-10 was lonewolfing and annihilating everything on the map before they even had a chance to do anything.
You missed the part where AA was kind of made effective again... oh snap...

I'm not taking sides, all I'm saying is for every + there is a minus, you can't just eat half the cookie, you gotta eat the whole thing fatty :p

Re: PR combined Arms ? A mod for a mod ? wtf !?

Posted: 2009-04-16 00:00
by Rudd
PlatinumA1 wrote:Such work shouldn't be in PR. It will ruin teamwork!!!
Don't worry people, he's being sarcastic....add a smile next time mate so ppl know

Of all the devs that are or recently have been working on PR (CAS retired) CAS was the one who wanted to get the air assets better, and imo his modifications are excellent, along with work by other people such as Alex.

Re: PR combined Arms ? A mod for a mod ? wtf !?

Posted: 2009-04-16 00:01
by waldo_ii
I've seen lots of videos by CAS_117. Videos of radars detecting all of the armor in a certain area, auto-tracking bombs, all were found by watching the forums over an extended period of time. I assume CAS wishes to include all of his work in his mod. I don't think he would have done all of the fantastic coding otherwise.

"Fantastic" wasn't used in sarcasm, by the way. It is great work.



Edit: Jeez, even my edit to my first post was ninjad by tons of people.

Maybe I haven't seen everything he has done. Judging only by what I have been exposed to, I have made my stated opinion. I never said I have seen it all.


@CallMeSnowflake
The videos in OP's post aren't the only things CAS_117 has worked on.

Re: PR combined Arms ? A mod for a mod ? wtf !?

Posted: 2009-04-16 00:11
by CallMeSnowflake
waldo_ii wrote:I've seen lots of videos by CAS_117. Videos of radars detecting all of the armor in a certain area, auto-tracking bombs, all were found by watching the forums over an extended period of time. I assume CAS wishes to include all of his work in his mod. I don't think he would have done all of the fantastic coding otherwise.

"Fantastic" wasn't used in sarcasm, by the way. It is great work.



Edit: Jeez, even my edit to my first post was ninjad by tons of people.

Maybe I haven't seen everything he has done. Judging only by what I have been exposed to, I have made my stated opinion. I never said I have seen it all.


@CallMeSnowflake
The videos in OP's post aren't the only things CAS_117 has worked on.
I assumed as much :D Sorry if I was unclear. My request was for you to mention (or link to) some of the stuff CAS_117 has done, because all I have seen is those two videos, and I'm interested in seeing more, and you seemed like a reasonable person to ask :)

Re: PR combined Arms ? A mod for a mod ? wtf !?

Posted: 2009-04-16 00:17
by waldo_ii
I'm trying to find the videos that I am referring to. I remember them quite clearly, but for the life of me I cannot find them. It may be that they were removed.

I found one that CAS_117 worked on, uploaded by Alex.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZSmDVA1 ... annel_page

I have also seen a video of a jet (The Harrier?) flying around, switching to radar, and the radar detecting all of the armor within a cone, locking onto that armor by itself, then the pilot drops the bomb. I can't find it, I'm probably using all the wrong search terms. Or the video is gone.