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Pence wrote:There is some confusion over weapons of the USMC Marksman's rifle, i thought they use the M14/M21 for this role but everyware say's the Mk 11 Mod 0.
Also the L86A2 seems to be takeing the British role as the marksman rifle with its long barrel and is still used by troops anyway.
The Dragunov SVD or Vintorez could be the MEC version or just an AK with a scope.
China's Type 88 could be used too but i dont think there is a replacement for the sniper rifle.

'[R-DEV wrote:Eddie Baker']It depends on the size/type of unit and the availability of equipment, Pence. The USMC M14 Designated Marksman Rifle wasn't intended for regular rifle squad designated marksmen/advanced marksmen, though it has made it down to rifle company and rifle platoon level in some units. Most of the DMRs are with the Military Police Special Response Teams (SRT), Marine Security Guard (MSG) Detachments, Fleet Anti-terrorism Security Team (FAST) Platoons, Surveillance and Target Acquisition (STA) Platoons (scout-snipers) and other specialized units. It will probably be phased out eventually by the Mk-11 (a variant of the SR-25) because of the difficulty of maintenance.

The designated / advanced marksmen in many USMC rifle squads use the Squad Advanced Marksman Rifle, or SAM-R. It is an M16A4 fitted with a commercial match-grade barrel, floating rail interface system and a variable power telescopic sight. The West Coast Marines have made do with the M16A4 and ACOG combination for their SAM-R, thus far.

The SVD was designed as a platoon/squad level DMR anyway and is probably the most common weapon of that type in service around the world. It is produced under license or knocked off in quite a few states, including China (Type 79/Type 85). It will remain the MEC's DMR.

As for other options, the Iraqis manufactured the Tabuk Sniper Rifle (just about all of their local-produced Kalashnikov variants were called Tabuk), which was sort of a ******* child of the SVD and the AKM. It fired/fires the 7.62 x 39mm round of the AKM, essentially being a longer, heavy-barreled version of it with a PSO-1 type scope and "skeleton" stock.

It will remain the MEC's DMR.

six7 wrote:The SAM-R is no where close to being phased out. It is issued standard on the squad level in the USMC.

JellyBelly wrote:At the moment Pence, British forces don't actually have a DMR rifle. Its something weve never really botherd with. As far as im aware though, the L86a2 is being trialled for the role. If all goes well, the LSW will be replaced by the MINIMI and will be re-designated (and modified I should think) to suit it's new role.

JellyBelly wrote:Oh yeah. Definatley.

Id still want the MINIMI as the support weapon though

Lucractius wrote:Hrm, (havent seen it come up before) do we stick to "realism" as in whats in use now, or is some small allowance made for "realism" as in what will be in use Soon as in a few years time, cause i can imagine something like the XM8 ParaSniper configuration making an ideal DM rifle, since that is its job

www.globalsecurity.org wrote: "On 31 October 2005, the XM8 program was formally suspended, "pending further US Army reevaluations of its priorities for small caliber weapons..."