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Merlin, Blackhawk Where are you?

Posted: 2009-04-30 11:34
by Pure_beef
I would like to see some more maps using more air assets. I'm not too bothered about the jets, or the attack helos, but I would like to see the blackhawk and especially the Merlin get used more. Flying the Huey is good, but it does not compare to the power of the blackhawk, circling an enemy squad whilst someone is on miningun is always fun, I have to play kashan or ramiel to get a chance to fly it.
The merlin on the other hand is just fun to fly, but if i want to get a chance to use it i have to play quinling and who the hell plays that map...ever.

Seriously we need some more air asset maps.

Re: Merlin, Blackhawk Where are you?

Posted: 2009-04-30 11:39
by Rudd
Problem with the merlin is that its kinda bugged, I'm hearing ppl complaining of the infamous lag even though the door is gone.

Re: Merlin, Blackhawk Where are you?

Posted: 2009-04-30 11:59
by hiberNative
i don't lag with the merlin. throw it in for the lulz, and let those who do not lag fly it. it's a sexy looking helicopter.

Re: Merlin, Blackhawk Where are you?

Posted: 2009-04-30 12:08
by ChiefRyza
Some of my fondest memories of PR were on Ghost Train in 0.7, where we used to pile people into the merlin and we'd all be standing inside it firing down onto the flags with the back ramp down, with nobody actually sitting in the seats themselves.....awaaaaaww I miss those days!

Re: Merlin, Blackhawk Where are you?

Posted: 2009-04-30 14:43
by Cpl.Small
Kashan and Qinling are the only two proper air maps now :(

Re: Merlin, Blackhawk Where are you?

Posted: 2009-04-30 14:51
by Cheditor
Yeah also can anyone tell me what other maps have fair assest vs assest battles apart from quinling and kashan? I cant think of any :( needs more tank vs tank capability maps.

Re: Merlin, Blackhawk Where are you?

Posted: 2009-04-30 15:07
by charliegrs
Cheditor wrote:Yeah also can anyone tell me what other maps have fair assest vs assest battles apart from quinling and kashan? I cant think of any :( needs more tank vs tank capability maps.
you mean symetricaly balanced maps? PR is trying to move away from that. dont get me wrong i love qinling and kashan, but we will probably see less maps like that in the future.

Re: Merlin, Blackhawk Where are you?

Posted: 2009-04-30 15:10
by Rudd
charliegrs wrote:you mean symetricaly balanced maps? PR is trying to move away from that. dont get me wrong i love qinling and kashan, but we will probably see less maps like that in the future.
I dunno, I think the problem is that they tend to be 4k maps, and those are hard to make

Re: Merlin, Blackhawk Where are you?

Posted: 2009-04-30 15:19
by Cpl.Small
sangin ftw :)

Re: Merlin, Blackhawk Where are you?

Posted: 2009-04-30 20:42
by FuzzySquirrel
hiberNative wrote:i don't lag with the merlin. throw it in for the lulz, and let those who do not lag fly it. it's a sexy looking helicopter.
x2, It's sexy, if someone cant fly it cause of lag its just as fun to look at :D

Re: Merlin, Blackhawk Where are you?

Posted: 2009-04-30 20:45
by Cheditor
Yeah heres low priority idea. On Basrah have some static merlins, so you see em but they are not crewable etc.

Re: Merlin, Blackhawk Where are you?

Posted: 2009-04-30 20:50
by Ace42
Dr2B Rudd wrote:I dunno, I think the problem is that they tend to be 4k maps, and those are hard to make
The requirements for an engaging large-scale asset map are very very different from an infantry or combined-forces map. The BF1942 map "Battle of Britain" shows just how hard that balance is to get, and how server settings can make a MASSIVE difference to how the game goes.

Asset vs Asset maps are ok; IF they are built and briefed to be non-infantry maps. If everyone knows "hey, it's an air-map, everyone get into planes and dogfight!" or "hey, tanks for everyone, don't get stuck on foot!" then that's dandy.

Of course, getting stuck on foot for these maps because of spawn-times, etc etc bites. And, some people play PR solely to be a ground-pounder, not a pilot/driver.

Re: Merlin, Blackhawk Where are you?

Posted: 2009-04-30 22:35
by Spartan0189
I like the Blackhawk better, Cause it has defenses for AA Rockets and infantry, On the otherside, Merlin is nice, because it flies a bit faster from my observations.

Re: Merlin, Blackhawk Where are you?

Posted: 2009-05-01 01:22
by TF6049
Love the lynx. Fast and agile, once you're off the ground pretty much nothing but AA missiles can down you.

Re: Merlin, Blackhawk Where are you?

Posted: 2009-05-01 23:21
by Acemantura
Can we put he Door back on that baby?

I kinda need it for the Movie

Re: Merlin, Blackhawk Where are you?

Posted: 2009-05-02 09:23
by Mary.au
acemantura wrote:Can we put he Door back on that baby?

I kinda need it for the Movie
Well apparently its causes the 'Merlin Lag' however after removing it people still have the issue. So I see no reason for putting it back in.

Re: Merlin, Blackhawk Where are you?

Posted: 2009-05-04 17:14
by evya
i hope they will get the door back in next version :( i also miss merlin from basrah, pretty epic chopper :)

Re: Merlin, Blackhawk Where are you?

Posted: 2009-05-04 17:35
by Gore
I still lag in the Merlin. Miss flying it, because it was as easy to fly as the Blackhawk in vanilla :)

Re: Merlin, Blackhawk Where are you?

Posted: 2009-05-04 19:43
by unrealalex
I agree. Too many assets are going unused.

Battle for Qinling is one of the most fun PR maps, why do servers not play it? It's got everything for everyone.