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PR Server Idea

Posted: 2009-05-15 19:02
by space
I have a plan to set up a server with a white list of experienced, team-work orientated players. The idea is to have a server where you can always go and expect the other players to be reasonably experienced and mature - if all goes well , there will be an absolute minimum of rules, and no need for an admin - the players will admin themselves to remain members of the community. ( having said that, there will be an admin as backup )

The server will be about teamwork and tactics and membership will be more about ingame attitude, rather than skill level.

It will not be a clan, and no commitments will be expected of members. Initially anyone can become a member, but once the player base is established, membership will be via referral from members.

All members will be expected to have a mic, mumble, and xfire.

The server will have a scoreboard on the server website, which is reset each month.


Initially members would be asked to make a contribution of £5 ( $8 ) per year to the server, but this would not be compulsory, and I have plans which would allow the server to be self funding without the need for any contributions. The server would need a minimum of 128 members to become viable. The first server would either be set up in the US or Europe, depending on where the majority of players come from, but the long term aim would be to set up a server on both continents.

Please let me know what you guys think of the idea. If you like the idea then put "interested" at the bottom of your post, plus your location (Europe/N America/Other)

PS - In general I'm against elitism in PR - the idea is to have a server which does not experience the type of people who act like tards. "My brother was using my account will not be accepted as an excuse" :D

Re: PR Elite Server

Posted: 2009-05-15 19:06
by supahpingi
sounds like a dream coming true,if only i can convince my parents to allow me to donate....

Well im 18 in 2 months so then im allowed to do it myself :D

Re: PR Elite Server

Posted: 2009-05-15 19:11
by Neo_Mapper
sounds interesting. Also thought a similar idea long time ago. suffered on financial facts :D
How do you want to make it community only? password? Will be mumble a MUST? (hope so... 64players on mumble, working together = *_* - had some nice rounds on UKWF with 20+ people on mumble)

interested - Germany/Europe

Re: PR Elite Server

Posted: 2009-05-15 19:14
by snooggums
Wow, you described the majority of successful servers except for the whitelisting part. Servers such as TacticalGamer, TCombat and Tactics and Teamwork have had player bases that were self correcting without always needing admin, but since they are not password protected there will always be a few tards that hop on and disrupt game play even if only briefly.

Although I am interested in a white listed server I see the following issues:

With 128 white listed players there will be a lot of dead time unless events are scheduled because only a small portion will match up at the same time, in which case having a regularly used server handle events would work out better. People will play in bursts, either a very few or empty or all at once. And once people start leaving the server will empty quickly.

To hit critical mass to get enough players for people to donate you need enough donating players to make it sustainable. Server cost might be lower because of having fewer players, but there's that critical point where there is enough follow through to get the thing started. Even popular servers can seed with random pubbies.

Why have a scoreboard when the goal is not about skill? If the scoreboard only showed team win/loss I could see that working.


Interested - N America

Re: PR Elite Server

Posted: 2009-05-15 19:25
by Michael_Denmark
In six to twelve months from today - plus a rumour saying ok for the server and its members, i will be donation/participation-level interested.

Location: Europe


I second this opinion from post 29
snooggums wrote:You'll need to post up some guidelines for 'how Pr should be played' as everyone will have a similar, but differing opinion.

For example: Some people who are otherwise great players have no issue with driving transport cars around to squash infantry instead of using the main gun. While doing so during a pass when surprised is no big deal, I wouldn't want to see people playing bumper cars.

Likewise, some people who are otherwise great players have no problem ramming vehicles with other vehicles if the situation is to their advantage, even though it is completely unrealistic with the forces they are playing (such as USMC or Brits) who have no history of suicide tactics.

And there are other players who have no issue with using planes to baserape uncappable flags, even though they are barred from the game intentionally with the dome of death from doing the same with infantry.

Really, there would need to be a few strict rules and otherwise war is war, but having no rules and kicking people at a whim would not be conductive to server population since no one would know what to expect to be kicked for. If no one is kicked, then the point of having this type of server is void.

Re: PR Elite Server

Posted: 2009-05-15 19:26
by space
All good points snoo, and the scoreboard would indeed be based on win/loss (including loss "points" from early disconnection ) - this idea is slightly controversial, but I expect many players would not be bothered about their score, but some would, and this would encourage players to keep coming back to the server, and also encourage even more teamwork.

Also by having an x-fire group, hopefully it would encourage people to get together to seed the server, as well as cutting down on ingame text chatter. This will also be helped by having compulsory Mumble.

A big aim of PR is to reduce unrealistic things on the screen, and yet most servers constantly have rules scrolling up in large text, plus the usual in game ****. Hopefully this server will be free from that ( and disabled if possible )

The 128 players, is the number needed to establish the server - I would hope that the majority of the PR community would eventually become members, as the tards seem to be in a minority in PR, but unfortunately can quickly ruin a game for the majority.

The whitelist will work via a script. If your names not down - your not coming in!

Re: PR Elite Server

Posted: 2009-05-15 19:30
by =Romagnolo=
only players with mumble ? Oh, what a dream !

Re: PR Elite Server

Posted: 2009-05-15 19:34
by Outlawz7
So basically another PR community with a server like TG or TCombat..?

Re: PR Elite Server

Posted: 2009-05-15 19:40
by space
Outlawz wrote:So basically another PR community with a server like TG or TCombat..?
Similar in some ways, except it wont have a clan, and it will have a white list so there will be zero tards, and no complete first timers, who can basically turn a game. The problem with some other well admined servers is that there are still arguments over assets etc and lots of nitpicking over rules - I'm aiming for true teamwork, and a mature attitude.

I dont like to exclude first timers, and when i play PR, beginners are always welcome in my squad, but they hopefully strive to become a member of this server, and as I said, its more about attitude than skill level.

Re: PR Elite Server

Posted: 2009-05-15 19:45
by Psyko
this type of "hardcore" server is quite nessesary now more than ever. ill activly support this, because to be honust, reputation or not, at this current stage in PR...having a successful server is all about numbers, and not reputation. i dont want to get to know more people, i dont want to babysit another newbie, i want to play the game in pro mode and not hold sombody's hand and hear stupid lines like, what kit do you want me as and that kind of stuff. if you cant play or are new to the game, i respectfully ask you to find a different squad, because i dont want to have to teach you what i have explained to others (literally...) Hundreds of times. on this server, i will expect every squad to have a squad leader and a commander.

go ahead with your server mate, im sure that it will have a very good mature following. and i want you to know, im happy that sombody has stepped up to the plate and suggested this, and im enthusiastic about the response.

Interested - europe

=TCC=psykogundam of Tcombat.com

Re: PR Elite Server

Posted: 2009-05-15 19:46
by Scot
I'm intriuged , UK ;)

Wouldn't be able to donate for a while however :(

Re: PR Elite Server

Posted: 2009-05-15 19:51
by OldGoat5
64 people on mumble???



/very interested

Re: PR Elite Server

Posted: 2009-05-15 19:54
by space
Scot wrote:I'm intriuged , UK ;)

Wouldn't be able to donate for a while however :(
Hopefully compulsory contributions would be avoided. £5 ( $8 ) isnt very much and maybe Im being naive, but Im hoping those that could afford more would be willing to contribute slightly more ( on a voluntary basis ), to subsidise those that cant. Obviously if everyone says "I cant afford £5", then compulsory contributions would be required. Many clans ask members to contibute £5-£10 per month to run their servers.

I have some experience with a certain type of referral software, which means that people can sign up to a free trail of say a movie club ( plus dozens of other choices ) , and the referrer gets $10. Im hoping that this could be a possible way of self funding the server, for those who cant afford the £5 per year.

Re: PR Elite Server

Posted: 2009-05-15 19:54
by MrSh@vid
64 people on mumble would be.....orgasmic.

Re: PR Elite Server

Posted: 2009-05-15 20:04
by snooggums
Psykogundam wrote:this type of "hardcore" server is quite nessesary now more than ever. ill activly support this, because to be honust, reputation or not, at this current stage in PR...having a successful server is all about numbers, and not reputation. i dont want to get to know more people, i dont want to babysit another newbie, i want to play the game in pro mode and not hold sombody's hand and hear stupid lines like, what kit do you want me as and that kind of stuff. if you cant play or are new to the game, i respectfully ask you to find a different squad, because i dont want to have to teach you what i have explained to others (literally...) Hundreds of times. on this server, i will expect every squad to have a squad leader and a commander.

go ahead with your server mate, im sure that it will have a very good mature following. and i want you to know, im happy that sombody has stepped up to the plate and suggested this, and im enthusiastic about the response.

Interested - europe

=TCC=psykogundam of Tcombat.com
Asking what kit the squad leader wants is wrong? What is 'pro mode'? Is that like being a 'leet sniper'?

Please don't white list people with this attitude or the server will become a place for elitist jerks and those who want a fun game with experienced players will go back to their previous servers instead.

Re: PR Elite Server

Posted: 2009-05-15 20:09
by space
The attitude of asking squad leaders what kit to take, will be encouraged.

Skill will not be important - the idea behind the server, is a home for people to play PR the way I believe it should be played, and have a nice playing environment.

I don't like the word "elite" but, "select group of mature attitude players" doesn't have the same ring to it.

Re: PR Elite Server

Posted: 2009-05-15 20:16
by BattleArena4
For me, there is nothing more helpful than someone asking what kit you want. Maybe you need a medic. Maybe you don't want snipers in your squad, maybe you do. I would have hated to join and have you say that to me when I was trying to be helpful.

Re: PR Elite Server

Posted: 2009-05-15 20:28
by octo-crab
Very interested, U.S. of A