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British Tank/Armor crews and their sidearm/rifles

Posted: 2009-05-28 12:44
by kilroy0097
This was a question raised a long time ago. I finally got a credible answer to it. So just in case the Devs or whoever originally asked the question is still wondering, here is the answer.

Question: What assault rifle or personal defense weapon do modern British tank crews use due to limited space?

Answer: For a sidearm they use the Browning Hi-Power pistol. for their main fire arm they use a L22 A2 assault rifle. this is a shorter version of the L85 A2 assault rifle(SA80). it can also be called the L85 carbine.

Re: British Tank/Armor crews and their sidearm/rifles

Posted: 2009-05-28 12:48
by Sgt. Mahi
depends on the country though

Re: British Tank/Armor crews and their sidearm/rifles

Posted: 2009-05-28 12:53
by Spaz
Sgt. Mahi wrote:depends on the country though
Did you read the post? ;)

Re: British Tank/Armor crews and their sidearm/rifles

Posted: 2009-05-28 13:11
by gazzthompson
Sgt. Mahi wrote:depends on the country though
British Tank/Armor crews and their sidearm/rifles

im sure the devs know this as they have atleast 2 serving armor crewman (uk_force and joey) ukforce crewing light armor and joey CH2 IIRC.

Re: British Tank/Armor crews and their sidearm/rifles

Posted: 2009-05-28 13:20
by Rhino
Ye we know about the L22, its an awesome weapon :D

Here's Fortnight with a L22 with Eotech hehe :D
(the guys at Bovington did this to see what it was like, not common for a eotech to be mounted on a SA80)

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The weapon is rather low priority, since its only really used by Crewman and as such, would be hardly used ingame.

EDIT: also here is a pic of a poster of the Driver area of the CR2 where you can see the L22 mounted on a special mount inside just for it :D

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Re: British Tank/Armor crews and their sidearm/rifles

Posted: 2009-05-28 13:21
by Rudd
There is a l22 model aroud someplace, but its not a priority afaik

Re: British Tank/Armor crews and their sidearm/rifles

Posted: 2009-05-28 13:28
by AnimalMother.
well if pilot kits were to be distinguished between heli and jet then the L22 would get more usage plus with the new chopper dynamics meaning surviving a crash is more likely it might be good to have it for the heli crews, in the long run.

Re: British Tank/Armor crews and their sidearm/rifles

Posted: 2009-05-28 14:09
by jbgeezer
Oh man, the L85 is so sexy! I wish I were in the british armed forces.

Re: British Tank/Armor crews and their sidearm/rifles

Posted: 2009-05-28 14:14
by Rudd
'[R-DEV wrote:Rhino;1036526']
EDIT: also here is a pic of a poster of the Driver area of the CR2 where you can see the L22 mounted on a special mount inside just for it :D

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/3459/img0974r.jpg
That looks suspiciously like an SA80 non-carbine to me...

Re: British Tank/Armor crews and their sidearm/rifles

Posted: 2009-05-28 14:35
by tlindy
I know its not the answer to your question but American tank crews normally only cary a M9 pistol

Re: British Tank/Armor crews and their sidearm/rifles

Posted: 2009-05-28 14:37
by Rhino
Dr2B Rudd wrote:That looks suspiciously like an SA80 non-carbine to me...
ye I think might have been the old version of the L22, unsure :p

You will have to ask undies :p

Re: British Tank/Armor crews and their sidearm/rifles

Posted: 2009-05-28 14:38
by AnimalMother.
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:ye I think might have been the old version of the L22, unsure :p

You will have to ask undies :p
no i think its just an L85

Re: British Tank/Armor crews and their sidearm/rifles

Posted: 2009-05-28 14:40
by Scot
tlindy wrote:I know its not the answer to your question but American tank crews normally only cary a M9 pistol

Really? I always thought that they carried M4s, obviously I'm wrong :D

Re: British Tank/Armor crews and their sidearm/rifles

Posted: 2009-05-28 14:47
by tlindy
with the current war alot of armor units have been used as an infantry role and of course they have been issued M4s, but traditionaly they only carry an M9 while serving as straight tankers

Re: British Tank/Armor crews and their sidearm/rifles

Posted: 2009-05-28 14:57
by single.shot (nor)
Dr2B Rudd wrote:That looks suspiciously like an SA80 non-carbine to me...
that probably fits them both, however it still looks like a L85 noncarbine

Re: British Tank/Armor crews and their sidearm/rifles

Posted: 2009-05-28 18:06
by Undies
Its an older picture pre-carbine. We used to get normal SA80 fitted with iron sights, which were mounted in the cab in front of the driver as Rhino's picture shows. The newer fittings are in a new box which has been retro-fitted into the rear right hand bin on the back of the turret bustle. Just for interest, the carbine is issued 2 x per CR2 for the loader/operator and the driver, pistols are issued to the commander and gunner (CR2).

Re: British Tank/Armor crews and their sidearm/rifles

Posted: 2009-05-28 23:27
by Mary.au
tlindy wrote:with the current war alot of armor units have been used as an infantry role and of course they have been issued M4s, but traditional they only carry an M9 while serving as straight tankers
From what I read the US Marines adopted a new motto, "That every marine is a rifleman", including pilots, officers (not on the actual battlefield) etc.

Maybe the US Army has done similar.

Re: British Tank/Armor crews and their sidearm/rifles

Posted: 2009-05-29 02:45
by IAJTHOMAS
Mary.au wrote:From what I read the US Marines adopted a new motto, "That every marine is a rifleman", including pilots, officers (not on the actual battlefield) etc.

Maybe the US Army has done similar.
So marine SAW gunners carry rifles ar well then? I don't think that's meant to be taken literally.

Re: British Tank/Armor crews and their sidearm/rifles

Posted: 2009-05-29 05:45
by Oddsodz
[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:

The weapon is rather low priority, since its only really used by Crewman and as such, would be hardly used ingame.
Tell that to the MEC team and there MP5's lol

Re: British Tank/Armor crews and their sidearm/rifles

Posted: 2009-05-29 06:04
by flickflackingfligger
the L22 A2 looks pretty sweet, and who knows maybe some special forces use it too. stick a silencer on there and your good to go :mrgreen: