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Air burst shells in tanks

Posted: 2009-06-07 11:50
by dominator200
I was thinkin thawt tanks should have airburst round in there armement to engage to choppers as this is one of the rounds tanks have

Re: Air burst shells in tanks

Posted: 2009-06-07 12:05
by Rudd
link to source please, google search came up empty

Re: Air burst shells in tanks

Posted: 2009-06-07 12:16
by Hitman.2.5
Dr2B Rudd wrote:link to source please, google search came up empty
Try bing.com XD

i'm sure iRL it is possible like the flak shells but idk if there used in this day and age especially in tanks but if there is then meh, how would you be able to set the range it explodes in mid air at? and would it even be possible to do with the BF2 engine?

Re: Air burst shells in tanks

Posted: 2009-06-07 12:49
by Alex6714
Seriosuly, tanks need AA missiles aswell. Its not easy enough to shoot a heli down with the main gun at the moment anyway, and that is their primary role.

Re: Air burst shells in tanks

Posted: 2009-06-07 12:54
by $kelet0r
M830A1 HEAT shells that the M1A2 uses can have proximity fuses on the warhead. Alternatvely, the gunner could simply set the shell to explode at a given range - the shell fuse is simply set to detonate after it has completed the rotations to reach a given distance. And seeing as HE rounds out of L44 and L55 cannons found on western tanks can reach out accurately to 5km+, tanks can be very effective helicopter killers. Regardless of what Alex thinks :P

Re: Air burst shells in tanks

Posted: 2009-06-07 13:03
by Rissien
First off, were talking gameplay and he was being sarcastic.

Re: Air burst shells in tanks

Posted: 2009-06-07 13:04
by Alex6714
I don“t deny they are, I know they are, but generally helis can fire from double that tanks range while on the move, on their own and have 8 tanks down in around 30 seconds. ;)

Re: Air burst shells in tanks

Posted: 2009-06-07 13:34
by Solid Knight
Tanks are not effective AA. Unless you had some big beast like a Chinook flying in a straight line you might be able to hit it with you main gun.

Of course in PR tanks are the bane of all helicopters and even some jets.

Re: Air burst shells in tanks

Posted: 2009-06-07 14:03
by Eddie Baker
If this were to be included it would not be for all tanks, as only the US M830A1 round has selectable-fused air-burst capability

Re: Air burst shells in tanks

Posted: 2009-06-07 14:12
by dominator200
[R-DEV]Eddie Baker wrote:If this were to be included it would not be for all tanks, as only the US M830A1 round has selectable-fused air-burst capability
this isnt technicaly true the russin t60 i think or summat like that uses them in real life if this quote refers to gameplay then i cant comment, terms of how to implement it u could possiably have the range finder that the driver has by using the right ckick wen u find a range by lookin at it that could be the range it explodes at dnt no if its possiable

Re: Air burst shells in tanks

Posted: 2009-06-07 14:39
by masterceo
there is no T60, only T62 and i have found none information whatsoever about any kind of airburst shells for T62

edit: i have no idea where you find this information, can you post a source?

Re: Air burst shells in tanks

Posted: 2009-06-07 14:46
by DankE_SPB
search for Ainet system
125mm APERS And Special Rounds
http://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/weg2001.pdf
125-mm HE-Shapnel Focused-fragmentation, Ainet
Maximum Aimed Range (m): 5,000
Max Effective Range (m):
Day: 4,000
Night: 800-1,300
Tactical AA Range: 4,000-5,000
T80 Tank Characteristics
T-90

Re: Air burst shells in tanks

Posted: 2009-06-07 15:01
by Ccharge
Guys PR has a sorta rock papper sissors gameplay when it comes down to it.

Infatry beats helo, helo beats tank, tank beats infatry. Of course theres obviously some cases when this is not true.

If you give a tank AA capabilitys then your completly changing gameplayer. All of a sudden the helicopter is even more exposed.

Stop getting upset because a apache kills you because you cant shoot it down. Its only realistic.

Re: Air burst shells in tanks

Posted: 2009-06-07 15:32
by jbgeezer
Alex6714 wrote:Seriosuly, tanks need AA missiles aswell. Its not easy enough to shoot a heli down with the main gun at the moment anyway, and that is their primary role.
The .50 caliber MG is for anti-air, both in PR and IRL. And in PR it is quite effective to ;)

Re: Air burst shells in tanks

Posted: 2009-06-07 15:41
by SkaterCrush
jbgeezer wrote:The .50 caliber MG is for anti-air, both in PR and IRL. And in PR it is quite effective to ;)
Which is exactly why they put these on carriers

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Re: Air burst shells in tanks

Posted: 2009-06-07 16:13
by >para<
tanks with AA?????????/.thats why we have AAV in maps !!!!! if you are good sq or team you gonna used :D like us :D its all about TW
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Re: Air burst shells in tanks

Posted: 2009-06-07 17:14
by Howitzer
ever heard about sarcasm ?

Re: Air burst shells in tanks

Posted: 2009-06-07 17:25
by Rudd
SkaterCrush wrote:Which is exactly why they put these on carriers

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these would actually be more fun than the missile AA :D

Re: Air burst shells in tanks

Posted: 2009-06-07 18:27
by Bringerof_D
Dr2B Rudd wrote:these would actually be more fun than the missile AA :D
lol agreed

Re: Air burst shells in tanks

Posted: 2009-06-07 19:46
by PlatinumA1
Alex6714 wrote:Seriosuly, tanks need AA missiles aswell. Its not easy enough to shoot a heli down with the main gun at the moment anyway, and that is their primary role.
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lol ..., of course Alex is being sarcastic