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Semitruck Bomb

Posted: 2009-06-26 01:13
by aperson444
I searched up on the forum and did not find this topic.

Now that i see that the insurgents are seriously nerfed, I would like to propose another idea.

We already have Big Red now, but I think we can go 1 step. There should a a large, slow semitruck that carries several hundreds of kg of explosives. This would spawn every once in a round for the INS. This explosion would span around 150-200 m and would be heard from 1 km away. From 200 m away from the radius, there should be that "suppressed" effect. This would be comparable to a drivable JDAM. It should have medium armor, but should be slow and hard to drive. This would spawn only once in a game. Below is a chart of the car bomb sizes.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Vbied-standards-chart.jpg




So this would be a new asset for INS. It would be spawning only once in a game to prevent abuse.

What do you think?

Re: Semitruck Bomb

Posted: 2009-06-26 01:20
by SFOD_F HaXXeD
Uh, isnt the current Big Red a JDAM explosion?

Re: Semitruck Bomb

Posted: 2009-06-26 01:27
by unrealalex
Is it even realistic? Big red is plenty man...

Re: Semitruck Bomb

Posted: 2009-06-26 01:55
by lucky14
Big Red is the exact same, except easier to drive, and looks wierder.

Now, if I had a truck, put some insurgent's in there, drive up on a base, get out, and bam! surpirse attack!

Re: Semitruck Bomb

Posted: 2009-06-26 07:47
by Dunehunter
Problem is that it removes any element of skill. With a regular truck/car you have to take some care to sneak up on your enemies..this thing can flatten you from half a mile away :p

Re: Semitruck Bomb

Posted: 2009-06-26 08:30
by JKRMAUI
It's not like the INS needs any super weapons...Blufor is having enough trouble winning a round as is.

Re: Semitruck Bomb

Posted: 2009-06-26 08:35
by SkaterCrush
An explosion that big could probably be heard from a few hundred KM's away if the world went quiet

Re: Semitruck Bomb

Posted: 2009-06-26 11:55
by FuzzySquirrel
gas104 wrote:not to be mean but that exposition is so big it made a laugh LOL!!!
I sense make?
aperson444 wrote:I searched up on the forum and did not find this topic.

Now that i see that the insurgents are seriously nerfed, I would like to propose another idea.

We already have Big Red now, but I think we can go 1 step. There should a a large, slow semitruck that carries several hundreds of kg of explosives. This would spawn every once in a round for the INS. This explosion would span around 150-200 m and would be heard from 1 km away. From 200 m away from the radius, there should be that "suppressed" effect. This would be comparable to a drivable JDAM. It should have medium armor, but should be slow and hard to drive. This would spawn only once in a game. Below is a chart of the car bomb sizes.


File:Vbied-standards-chart.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




So this would be a new asset for INS. It would be spawning only once in a game to prevent abuse.

What do you think?
1. We have a Truck with a 500LB Bomb anyway.
2. This is ooooooooover Kill.
3. The Blufor get so distracted by their pretty new weapons they dont even wanna win the round.
4. Basically the same thing Dune said, No skill. And nobody likes people who don't have any skillz.

Re: Semitruck Bomb

Posted: 2009-06-26 12:16
by Adetter
Big red should have a hanger..........

Re: Semitruck Bomb

Posted: 2009-06-26 14:01
by Priby
I dont think its needed, optimus prime is doing his job quite well.
But a bigger bang would be even more epic :-P

Just for comparison:

1:15


0:30
The blast ruined the camera!

Re: Semitruck Bomb

Posted: 2009-06-26 14:21
by Adetter
Looks pretty silly half of the bomb is not on the Big red.............If you guys have a truck,with a thing like this.:



http://www.partseek.com/images/truck/full_truck.jpg



http://blogs.mysanantonio.com/weblogs/c ... /Truck.jpg

Re: Semitruck Bomb

Posted: 2009-06-26 14:40
by Raufbold
Adetter, you suck at linking. This is how it should be done

Re: Semitruck Bomb

Posted: 2009-06-26 15:05
by McBumLuv
My biggest qualm with Big red is that the blast can sometimes leave people standing if they happened to be in a ditch only 5 feet away, because the blast doesn't affect anything under it's horizontal plane.

I think the blast radius should be upped quite a bit, though. Maybe up to 50 meter kill radius, 80 meter injury radius, and 120 meter suppression radius? I mean the thing is pretty vulnerable to any vehicle, and any infantry can hear it from far away and kill the operator.

Re: Semitruck Bomb

Posted: 2009-06-28 00:03
by aperson444
Big red is the size of JDAM? Maybe my memory is dim, but it seems more like 3 artillery shells put together to me.

I would actually reduce the size a bit, you know, like those Pepsi trucks. Around 20-25 ft long. The INS are actually pretty weak as far as 0.86, but the reason it's easier for them to win is because they just have to defend the caches.

This truck would be a bit larger. The radius would be 500 ft = ~150 m. It would not take away skill, because it is still hard to maneuver and tricky to position. The cloud of dust needs to be a bit wider.

13,000 kilos of Semtex isn't nothing. Big Red is a 500 lb bomb on a truck. That's just the trailer. Looking at that chart, the blast radius would be around 30 m. It's listed as a car bomb. Of course the explosive is the deciding factor, but those 500 lbs are probably some old bombs from the military, possibly some Nitroglycerin mixture. Nitroglycerin has an RE factor of 1.5. That's almost as powerful as PETN, which comprises most of Semtex Mixture A.

This is a 64 gram charge of NG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjKSGxQ3 ... re=related


This is 375 g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIennyj4 ... re=related


Now imagine 500 lbs = 226 kilos

That's quite a bit, even for just Big Red.

Now this is PETN. Semtex A is 5% RDX and 95% PETN. RDX enhances the charge.

That is a 20 g PETN Detcord (a cord filled with PETN).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aleeJ9Rg4Hw

Imagine 500 kilos of that. Now, it is possible that INS couldn't obtain Semtex (which was quite popular in car bombings etc.). They would use ANFO or ANNM which involves Ammonium Nitrate, a fertilizer. Nitromethane and Fuel Oil are well... fuels.

10 kg ANFO (below)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izWl23QNQ7M

This is just 10 kg.

Decide what you think.

Re: Semitruck Bomb

Posted: 2009-06-28 00:19
by Mad-Mike
aperson444 wrote:I searched up on the forum and did not find this topic.

Now that i see that the insurgents are seriously nerfed, I would like to propose another idea.

We already have Big Red now, but I think we can go 1 step. There should a a large, slow semitruck that carries several hundreds of kg of explosives. This would spawn every once in a round for the INS. This explosion would span around 150-200 m and would be heard from 1 km away. From 200 m away from the radius, there should be that "suppressed" effect. This would be comparable to a drivable JDAM. It should have medium armor, but should be slow and hard to drive. This would spawn only once in a game. Below is a chart of the car bomb sizes.


File:Vbied-standards-chart.jpg - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




So this would be a new asset for INS. It would be spawning only once in a game to prevent abuse.

What do you think?
it scares me wen ppl search for this type of thing :P

Re: Semitruck Bomb

Posted: 2009-06-28 17:32
by aperson444
it scares me wen ppl search for this type of thing :P
:O I actually had this bookmarked for some reason.

Re: Semitruck Bomb

Posted: 2009-06-28 17:57
by M_Striker
I'm all for increasing the blast size. Especially after watching that video. lol

Also, as others have pointed out, the bomb should be placed differently or there should be a new model. An airplane bomb that's hanging halfway off the back looks pretty bad. I suggest maybe racks of artillery shells or something to make it look better.