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MEC HAT (Eryx) - It is not wrking correctly

Posted: 2009-07-25 00:06
by Jorgee!
Hi there, i want to ask, why if you shoot an eryx from a roof of a 5 floors buildings to the ground it takes TWO FKN SECONDS to reach the ground....

I couln't believe it.

The Eryx seems to be "floating" to the objetive.... maybe we can make a race between a MEC HAT and a LB.

If you shoot with the China's HAT or the USA HAT, at the moment u press the attack button, it takes miliseconds to reach the target......

What is wrong with this??

Re: MEC HAT (Eryx) - It is not wrking correctly

Posted: 2009-07-25 00:12
by =Romagnolo=
Well, the eryx missiles don't go so fast like the other HATs, so the devs slowed down it. The problem is that the engine does not differ if you are shootin on a horizontal or a vertical situation.

Re: MEC HAT (Eryx) - It is not wrking correctly

Posted: 2009-07-25 00:18
by Jorgee!
I think its over slowed

Re: MEC HAT (Eryx) - It is not wrking correctly

Posted: 2009-07-25 00:18
by Nimise
I personally love how slow the MEC HAT is, makes it really easy to shoot down choppers.

Re: MEC HAT (Eryx) - It is not wrking correctly

Posted: 2009-07-25 00:21
by =Romagnolo=
Nimise wrote:I personally love how slow the MEC HAT is, makes it really easy to shoot down choppers.
PLUS you can improvise a javelin :P

Re: MEC HAT (Eryx) - It is not wrking correctly

Posted: 2009-07-25 00:23
by Jorgee!
Nimise wrote:I personally love how slow the MEC HAT is, makes it really easy to shoot down choppers.
What? For the moment the missile arrives to the chopper locations, the chopper is back to USS reloading supply.

Re: MEC HAT (Eryx) - It is not wrking correctly

Posted: 2009-07-25 00:28
by Rudd
doesn't it accelerate? it has a delayed engine? So its meant to be slow for sec or two, then it takes off

Re: MEC HAT (Eryx) - It is not wrking correctly

Posted: 2009-07-25 00:54
by Jazz
Right now it's pretty cool. You can tag moving armor pretty easily.

Re: MEC HAT (Eryx) - It is not wrking correctly

Posted: 2009-07-25 20:03
by Jorgee!
The Eryx isn't laser guided right? How can u use it?

Re: MEC HAT (Eryx) - It is not wrking correctly

Posted: 2009-07-25 20:04
by charliegrs
Well you would have liked the previous versions when all the HATs fly at about mach 7

Re: MEC HAT (Eryx) - It is not wrking correctly

Posted: 2009-07-25 20:22
by hiberNative
FusionGames wrote:The Eryx isn't laser guided right? How can u use it?
you hold down the left mouse button after firing to guide it to the point you're marking.
and it sounds way too slow the way you are describing. maybe it's a bug, or is it like this every time you've tried to use it? it's really friggin fast for me. can you make a video?

Re: MEC HAT (Eryx) - It is not wrking correctly

Posted: 2009-07-25 21:38
by Jorgee!
I'll try to make a video at home with a local server in the exactly position i was...

Re: MEC HAT (Eryx) - It is not wrking correctly

Posted: 2009-07-25 21:43
by waldo_ii
FusionGames wrote:The Eryx isn't laser guided right? How can u use it?
The Eryx is a portable TOW system; it is guided electronically by wires that connect it to the firer. The user has to have line-of-sight on the target the whole time, and has to optically track the target while the missile is in flight.

Re: MEC HAT (Eryx) - It is not wrking correctly

Posted: 2009-07-25 22:20
by Jorgee!
Thanks, that's new for me...

I have to read the manual again i think.

Maybe i could destroy the apc even when it moved away (i couldn't because of the eryx lowness, but i didn't hold the attack button)

Re: MEC HAT (Eryx) - It is not wrking correctly

Posted: 2009-07-26 10:47
by ArPeeGee
FusionGames wrote:Thanks, that's new for me...

I have to read the manual again i think.

Maybe i could destroy the apc even when it moved away (i couldn't because of the eryx lowness, but i didn't hold the attack button)
The hold and guide feature has been in vBF2 since it was released. :P

Re: MEC HAT (Eryx) - It is not wrking correctly

Posted: 2009-07-27 02:26
by VapoMan
There's nothing wrong with the eryx, i shot a cobra down with one justr the other day.
Its so easy because the dont get that lock on alarm, and cobra's tend to just hover up high.

Re: MEC HAT (Eryx) - It is not wrking correctly

Posted: 2009-07-27 12:11
by 05grottim
yh thats the problem with them is that you can shoot down a chopper with them. I'm no expert but i dont think AT missiles are used to shoot down choppers.

Re: MEC HAT (Eryx) - It is not wrking correctly

Posted: 2009-07-27 13:05
by LeadMagnet
The Eryx uses a coldfire system where a charge of inert gas kicks the round clear of the launcher (and operator) before the rocket motor ignites. This allows it to be fired from confined spaces such as buildings or bunkers. It's top speed is under 1000ft/sec which helps when using the wire guidance and it does indeed have some use against slow, low flying aircraft.

Re: MEC HAT (Eryx) - It is not wrking correctly

Posted: 2009-07-27 23:37
by Eddie Baker
05grottim wrote:yh thats the problem with them is that you can shoot down a chopper with them. I'm no expert but i dont think AT missiles are used to shoot down choppers.
It's not a problem, it's a feature. :mrgreen:
FM 3-22.32 "M41 Improved Target Acquisition System (for TOW ATGM)," JULY 2005, HEADQUARTERS, DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY wrote:4-11. HELICOPTER ENGAGEMENT
Enemy armor is the primary threat to friendly ground forces employed in forward areas. The primary mission of the ITAS is the destruction of these tanks at the greatest possible range. However, ITAS gunners can also successfully engage attacking enemy helicopters, which are a significant threat to ground forces. Engaging helicopters with the ITAS should be considered primarily as a means of self-defense. ITAS crews should not consider helicopters as a routine target of opportunity, but should leave them to conventional ADA assets when possible. Launch warning receiver technology available worldwide makes engagement of rotary-wing aircraft potentially a dangerous action.
a.
ITAS positions are selected to cover armor avenues of approach, but these long-range fields of fire also facilitate the engagement of aircraft. The section leader’s, squad leader’s, and crew’s observation from these positions can provide the early warning required to successfully engage aircraft.
b.
The engagement of attacking helicopters should be done by ITAS sections, not individual weapon systems. ITAS sections should automatically engage helicopters that are attacking their positions. If one squad in a section is being attacked by a helicopter, the other squad should engage the helicopter while the first squad seeks cover. ITAS crews and sections should be trained to automatically respond to helicopter attacks in this manner.
FIELD MANUAL 3-22.1" BRADLEY GUNNERY," NOVEMBER 2003, HEADQUARTERS, DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY wrote:c. Beyond 1,700 meters, the 25-mm uses too much ammunition for each kill. Thus, the crew uses the TOW weapon system against stationary, slow moving (up to 50 MPH) aerial targets between 1,700 and 2,000 meters. Nevertheless, the gunner should use the TOW against helicopters only when necessary.
FM 3-22.37 "JAVELIN—CLOSE COMBAT MISSILE SYSTEM, MEDIUM," March 2008, HEADQUARTERS, DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY wrote:Hovering Helicopter
4-97. To ensure an effective engagement, select the direct attack mode only.
Frontal Target
4-98. Adjust the track gates so that they surround only the nose of the fuselage (Figure 4-27). Any appendages (such as armaments, wings, rotor, and so forth) should be ignored.

4-99. Adjust the track gates to surround the passenger/engine compartment or main body (for those helicopters without a passenger compartment) (Figure 4-98]. Any appendages—such as the cockpit, tail boom, rotor, and so forth—are ignored.