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mortar carrier

Posted: 2009-08-02 23:42
by Garmax
i searched and couldnt find anything so here

M106 Mortar Carrier

simply im suggesting for the future if we ever do get those mortars.. maybe we could get them as a vehicle or something i believe the us army uses this one one person could drive the other operate the mortar one could spot and walk the artillery

Re: mortar carrier

Posted: 2009-08-02 23:47
by Jigsaw
Make it yourself?

Really though I doubt that this would have much application in-game and the handheld mortar isn't even working yet. Would be a long way to go to get this in and tbh im not so sure it would be worth the effort.

Re: mortar carrier

Posted: 2009-08-02 23:49
by Garmax
if i make it myself would it really be used

Re: mortar carrier

Posted: 2009-08-02 23:54
by Thermis
If you make it yourself and its good it might be used. It's happened in the past.

But Mortars are a touch and go subject at the moment. If you have the spare time and ability I say make it and when PR has a need for it, put it forward. Doesn't hurt to try.

Edit, I wouldn't use the M106, That's a tad bit outdated, I recommend looking up the Stryker mortar variant.

Re: mortar carrier

Posted: 2009-08-02 23:58
by Garmax
thats not a bad idea but ive never really touched the area of 3d models for games.. my graphic designs arts and 3d models are on a much more different surface but wouldnt hurt to try

Re: mortar carrier

Posted: 2009-08-03 00:13
by Rudd
let see how the new mortar model works out first eh?

Re: mortar carrier

Posted: 2009-08-03 00:34
by Eddie Baker
Garmax wrote:i searched and couldnt find anything so here

M106 Mortar Carrier

simply im suggesting for the future if we ever do get those mortars.. maybe we could get them as a vehicle or something i believe the us army uses this one one person could drive the other operate the mortar one could spot and walk the artillery
The Stryker mortar carrier variant (M1129) has been suggested before, and I think the subject of mortar carriers in general has come up here, but I'll leave it up to the mods as to whether or not to lock the topic, as it's one that doesn't come up often in my memory.

Just FYI. the M106s have been converted to M1064s with the introduction of the M120/M121 120mm mortar in the mid to late 1990s; they replaced the M30 4.2 inch (107mm) mortar. The M113-based 81mm mortar carriers are also long-gone. The Stryker M1129 variant mounts the M121 with a second, lighter mortar (81mm if battalion level unit or 60mm if company level unit) being carried for dismount use. The M1064s are in the heavy brigades (Bradley and Abrams) and the Strykers are, of course, in the Stryker interim/medium brigades.

Re: mortar carrier

Posted: 2009-08-03 00:48
by IAJTHOMAS
Stryker has a mortar carrier version doesn't it? That might be less work to modify than an entirely new model.

But as Rudd says, jumping the gun a bit and I sense a resuggest.

Edit: ninja'd and https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr ... rrier.html

Re: mortar carrier

Posted: 2009-08-03 00:55
by Garmax
ahh well i found out something new today i like the stryker mortar conversion a lot more actually and i do believe it would be alot easier then remodelling sure saved me that job!

Re: mortar carrier

Posted: 2009-08-03 08:49
by DannyIMK
in 0.9 there should be mortars (or 1.0 maybe)

so maybe there will be Stryker with Mortar launcher. M106/M113 are old vehicles from vietnam war. and stryker is newer vehicle. so maybe devs should make Mortar Stryker

Re: mortar carrier

Posted: 2009-08-03 14:23
by Expendable Grunt
From what I recall, they never quite managed to get arcing rounds to work.

M.

Re: mortar carrier

Posted: 2009-08-03 15:08
by Scot
If that is the case Cheo, how do GL's work??

Re: mortar carrier

Posted: 2009-08-03 17:59
by Jigsaw
Its not just arcing the rounds that would need to be done its the entire animation work both 3p and 1p, the flight characteristics, the way it would be represented in-game and how it would be used either in a team or individually. Really all they've got atm is the model afaik.

It's therefore wrong to presume that it will be in 0.9, although never say never.

Re: mortar carrier

Posted: 2009-08-03 18:07
by Expendable Grunt
[R-COM]Scot wrote:If that is the case Cheo, how do GL's work??
For non hand weapons, my bad, sorry.

M.

Re: mortar carrier

Posted: 2009-08-04 01:32
by Garmax
DannyIMK wrote:in 0.9 there should be mortars (or 1.0 maybe)

so maybe there will be Stryker with Mortar launcher. M106/M113 are old vehicles from vietnam war. and stryker is newer vehicle. so maybe devs should make Mortar Stryker
i did my research and their not old vehicles.. well the first version is.. but its been replaced by a newer more efficient version and i believe if im correct its cheaper then the stryker conversion and is quiet used to this day

Re: mortar carrier

Posted: 2009-08-04 02:05
by Hitman.2.5
Garmax wrote:i did my research and their not old vehicles.. well the first version is.. but its been replaced by a newer more efficient version and i believe if im correct its cheaper then the stryker conversion and is quiet used to this day
The IDF still use em so they could have it then you'd have to make the stryker version then the bulldog version it seems like a lot of work.

Re: mortar carrier

Posted: 2009-08-04 11:20
by Ragni<RangersPL>
This....
Dr2B Rudd wrote:let see how the new mortar model works out first eh?

I always was a huge fan of player controlled artillery (mobile or not) but... if you make a new vehicle for one faction let's say US Army and put it on the map like Kashan then you also need to make something similar for the MEC... and eventually any other factions with that kind of vehicles on other maps (not to mention about additional work for community factions in the future).... that's a lot of work so let's see how the stationary mortar works out first before thinking about new vehicles ;)

Re: mortar carrier

Posted: 2009-08-05 10:41
by calstifer
Or maybe we make them emplacements for FB's...

Re: mortar carrier

Posted: 2009-08-05 20:41
by Eddie Baker
Garmax wrote:i did my research and their not old vehicles.. well the first version is.. but its been replaced by a newer more efficient version and i believe if im correct its cheaper then the stryker conversion and is quiet used to this day
Yes, the M113A3 is still in use today by the US Army as a mortar carrier (M1064 mentioned earlier), engineer squad vehicle and in utility roles (like armored ambulance) in the heavy brigades. An upgraded and stretched version, the MTVL (aka M113A4 or M113A3+), is used by the Canadian Forces.

Re: mortar carrier

Posted: 2009-08-05 20:46
by 0blivi0us
Garmax wrote:i searched and couldnt find anything so here

M106 Mortar Carrier

simply im suggesting for the future if we ever do get those mortars.. maybe we could get them as a vehicle or something i believe the us army uses this one one person could drive the other operate the mortar one could spot and walk the artillery
Yeah, i read an article about a dev that recently finished up a mortar model. But it won't be out for a LONG time.

Idea is to have it as a stationary for forward bases.
I think making it to mobile will make the vehicle a might spam-mobile. Mortaring the hell out of some poor outpost :P