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Need help with the G3

Posted: 2009-08-10 00:13
by Bamtoman
Well Most of the time I am in the MEC team, I suck at getting kills with the G3 because of the crappy iron sights (for me), the recoil, and the 20 round magazine.
Anyone got any tips?

Re: Need help with the G3

Posted: 2009-08-10 00:16
by Rudd
its all about the semi auto :)

engaging on the move is a no no

thats basically it :)

love the g3 irons personally

Re: Need help with the G3

Posted: 2009-08-10 00:34
by gazzthompson

Re: Need help with the G3

Posted: 2009-08-10 00:37
by Expendable Grunt
Dr2B Rudd wrote:its all about the semi auto :)

engaging on the move is a no no

thats basically it :)

love the g3 irons personally
In full agreement with Rudd here. The G3 in game is pretty much designed to fire from a fixed position. It's not a very good assault weapon in my opinion, but it's serviceable enough.

M.

Re: Need help with the G3

Posted: 2009-08-10 00:37
by rexik
I'd say it's a very good weapon, but I'd lie, as close combat with scope on G3, I'd prefer knife or pistol, but iron sight now is fantastic, it's all about your tactical movements, you don't run into enemy with half a mag, you don't run into enemy reloading your mag, keep your eye on your weapon, it specially G3 with 20 round mag, good thing that this is the only weapon that could kill sniper in a distance of 500+m, I did this kill my self on C7 Muttrah round playing for CATA II.
Mate all weapons in game are very very good, all depends on your gaming tactics, if you are rushing all the time, you will die in a rush, using weapon with less ammo than enemy makes you hold, and take your time, this is all about situation analyze...
I hope I helped you :wink:

Cheers, Rex.

Re: Need help with the G3

Posted: 2009-08-10 01:35
by badmojo420
Full auto = useless even at 1m range. Only fire in single shots, and long duration between shots. Kneeling or going prone will help a lot. And go for one shot kills. Don't fire off 5 rounds hoping to kill them. (unless of course your being suppressed or are bleeding out) Instead wait for the perfect shot. NEVER i repeat never, try to fire from the hip. You could get lucky, but in the long run its a bad habbit to get into with the G3.

I used to hate the G3, but now am getting the hang of using it. In my opinion it's nothing like ANY of the other assault rifles in the game. So if you treat it like an M4 or AK, you'll fail badly.

Re: Need help with the G3

Posted: 2009-08-10 04:29
by herbanator3
Honestly, I feel more comfortable with the G3 Ironsights than I do with any other Ironsights weapon.

Re: Need help with the G3

Posted: 2009-08-10 06:03
by flem615
Bamtoman wrote:Well Most of the time I am in the MEC team, I suck at getting kills with the G3 because of the crappy iron sights (for me), the recoil, and the 20 round magazine.
Anyone got any tips?
If you are a first time player, then disregard this advice. but if you have been playing long enough to know how to aim and fire the weapons effectively, then you might want to listen to this. my strategy for the G3, and the AK is simple and unorthodox. many people on the forums will bash me for saying this, but with the G3/AK rifles, nevermind accuracy.

This takes a bit of practice, but once you get it down its quite effective:
(Works best WITHOUT scope)
Only use when aiming down the sights. This will fail miserably if you fire from the hip. SIGHT IN!
the moment you spawn in with the weapon, set the firing mode to fully automatic.
when you get into a firefight, fire off short bursts at the enemy. hold the mouse button for between 2-4 seconds, and settle after each burst. when i say settle, i mean make sure the ironsights are aimed at the enemy. dont wait for the deviation. basically you are popping up, firing controlled bursts, and popping back down to avoid fire.

Positives:
1. You will suppress the enemy. with all those bullets going there way, they will have to stay in cover.
2. you have a smaller mag as it is, and playing a marksman and hitting nothing wont make that mag bigger. let a rip with what you got. i havent run out of ammo yet. you still have your ammo bag, and other riflemen have ammo bags.
3. if your bursts are tight enough, and you are aiming at the enemy, chances are you will hit one if he trys to get up and move across open ground.
4. it feels real good to let loose some hell on the enemy.

Negatives:
1. you will run out of ammo faster.
2. you arent going to hit much for the amount of rounds you put downrange.
3. (if fighting a smart squad) you might draw more fire
4. only good for ranges of 0-150 meters. anything beyond that and hits are pure luck. (thats when you can switch to semi and squeeze off nice, undeviated shots)

like i said, im going to be heavily criticized for this method, but i think you should give it a try. after all what do you have to loose? you might get more kills, or just be stuck the way you are, and you cant get kicked/banned for firing your rifle in a firefight.
ive also seen a few other people using this method. most notably on the Russian maps.
give it a try. if you get it down, you will have better results.

Re: Need help with the G3

Posted: 2009-08-10 06:29
by Bringerof_D
G3 aint bad, you just gotta do your walking more instead of sprinting to get places. and yeah its best to stay semi, i managed to down 3 US soldiers on muttrah once with one mag on semi auto in an alleyway, lol i ran past them and they ran past me the other way around the corner and i turned around and just clicked like crazy.

heres my tip for any PR weapon in CQB, get a feel for the middle of your screen, once you have that its pretty easy.

@flem615: that is very effective, bursts is the way i ussually go when auto with the G3, but as you said the short mag makes this a bit hard. works best against few enemies in a tight area.

Re: Need help with the G3

Posted: 2009-08-10 07:27
by flem615
Ya like I said this method is no good for range. And you do run out of ammo. But on most encounters, many times up to 125m or so, I've found it to be very effective

Re: Need help with the G3

Posted: 2009-08-10 07:31
by Rudd
Sexy Beast [R-MOD]KP and his AG3 - Project Reality Forums

you'll all be addicted to this weapon

Re: Need help with the G3

Posted: 2009-08-10 08:06
by flem615
Nice. Very nice. Can't wait for all the new animations

Re: Need help with the G3

Posted: 2009-08-10 09:10
by Arnoldio
Im so lucky with G3 at times (killing a guy while moving, sighted in, over 40 meters, killing a guy on the roof while he was suppressing me behind a trash can but i peaked out from time to time (like they do in the movies :D , and still managed to kill him), but when i intentionally want to kill a guy, it never works...

Re: Need help with the G3

Posted: 2009-08-10 09:42
by ZaZZo
Personally I think the ironsigths on the G3 are really awesome because the front post is so thin. Makes it alot easier to get accurate shots, as you can still see your target, unlike the 5.56 rifles.

Re: Need help with the G3

Posted: 2009-08-10 11:00
by jbgeezer
I feel quite comfortable with the G3, though I never use it on full-auto. Its a "battle" rifle so no shooting on the move as previously stated.

Re: Need help with the G3

Posted: 2009-08-10 11:25
by single.shot (nor)
Range is your friend. the 7.62 is one of the bullies in a class of 5.56, you do nearly 2x damage, but you get 2x more recoil (approx. numbers) which is fair trade, but people dont really think about this, and use the G3 as a airsoftgun or similiar.

full auto is only useful at up to about 25 metres, in close range over this, use full auto at 2rnd bursts. (great success, for me atleast; 2 shots in the upper body will kill any enemies) the burst should have a pause of 3-4 seconds between 2 burst.

in ranges 100m and above, use single bullets at the same rate as the bursts.

in ranges 200m and above, use single bullets at a rate of 1 bullet per 5-6 seconds.

now, in ranges 200m+ the irons should be used as a supressing tool, just watch that ammo of yours and you'll be fine.

Re: Need help with the G3

Posted: 2009-08-10 13:08
by RHYS4190
the Iron sight is almost as good as the dot points, But the rifle kinda let's it down.

Re: Need help with the G3

Posted: 2009-08-10 19:35
by Matrox
Hopefully these should help you compare a little bit, or give you some decent info on the weapon handling!

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Re: Need help with the G3

Posted: 2009-08-10 19:52
by Psyko
matrox whats the diff between armour and heavy armour. is heavy armour dead center?

Re: Need help with the G3

Posted: 2009-08-10 20:02
by Rudd
Psykogundam wrote:matrox whats the diff between armour and heavy armour. is heavy armour dead center?
I think certain classes like rifleman get slightly heavier armour