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BBQ insurgents A La Gasoline

Posted: 2009-08-10 18:24
by Psyko
I need an shader and effect related developer to read this plz.

Ok, first we do have barrels of ignitible fuel on a bunch of maps. Right now i cant remember exactly where on each map but they are there. im sure they are on Al Basrah in the city somwhere and Asad Khal and Quai river. again, i cant exactly remember where they are.
its not a big suggestion, its just in the interest of realism, i have taken the liberty of watch far too much mythbusters to know that when you shoot propane and gas and vessles of ignitable fuel they dont just pop and shoot up in the air. that effect is silly. the real effect is that it falls over and sprays fuel out the side and gets engulfed in flames that expand outwards up to 30ft and upwards about 40ft or more. this effect only lasts about 10 seconds then it burns itself out and the flame dies down to somwhere in the neighbourhood of 8-10ft.

i have two suggestions.

1/ Increase the radius on the explosion and create a fire death object to burn things in the area. Im thinking have it kill anything being engulfed up to 10ft outwards (5M give or take)
and seriously injure anyone up to 20-25-ft (10 -15M give or take)
(Remember two aspects of this, it aint silly. nowhere ever ever ever ever have i ever seen barrels shoot directly up into the air and dissappear out of existance with a tiny 10% damage effect on a person standing beside it. its retarded :D )
Dont remove them they are too rare and nobody can remember where they are now anyway, so when they do eventually come accross them it will be interesting and not spam.

2/ The actual visual shader effect needs to go. Make a bigger one that is more flame than boom. remember its not a concussion device, its not a frag grenade. its like a static no team flamethrower that only lasts for a moment and then disapates. If you are going to make a shader it needs to be large and potant for all graphics settings.

anyways enough of my crazy ramblings, :D
heres a mythbuster video of them blowing somthing up.



this video is a bit overboard but you get the idea. courtesy of Walt Disney.

Re: BBQ insurgents A La Gasoline

Posted: 2009-08-10 18:40
by Scared_420
incindiary and minigun ? why didnt they just use full metal jacket

Re: BBQ insurgents A La Gasoline

Posted: 2009-08-10 19:38
by smart_boy00
I agree with needing some other animation for the propane tanks. If you watch the mythbusters show on the scuba tank getting hit with the bullet it shows a similar conclusion. Walking through any type of fire should hurt allot more too. im not rambo and even if I was in full battle fatigues I would be hurting if I ran through a fire.

Re: BBQ insurgents A La Gasoline

Posted: 2009-08-10 22:25
by Human_001
Wow. I never knew how a barrel of Gasoline will explode due to fire but I do now. Very informative and seriously important knowing how a barrel of gasoline would act in situation of fire. This information could save my life someday.

We definitely need that realistic explosion.

Re: BBQ insurgents A La Gasoline

Posted: 2009-08-10 23:06
by nick20404
Scared_420 wrote:incindiary and minigun ? why didnt they just use full metal jacket
Because it wouldn't ignite the gasses like in the movies..... :lol:

Re: BBQ insurgents A La Gasoline

Posted: 2009-08-11 01:47
by Hoboknighter
Unless you're firing a HEAT round at the barrel, however, there's very little in the game that could cause the gasoline to ignite unless you're standing point blank and firing into the gasoline and hoping the flash from your gun will ignite it.

Re: BBQ insurgents A La Gasoline

Posted: 2009-08-11 07:47
by Bringerof_D
Scared_420 wrote:incindiary and minigun ? why didnt they just use full metal jacket
an FMJ wouldnt set off the propane tank, it would go through but so did the tracers. what they needed was the heat generated by the incendiary rounds

oh and ^hoboknighter^ here has a good point. unless you got something exploding next to it or shooting at it with tank shells, theres not much in game that should set it off
smart_boy00 wrote:I agree with needing some other animation for the propane tanks. If you watch the mythbusters show on the scuba tank getting hit with the bullet it shows a similar conclusion. Walking through any type of fire should hurt allot more too. im not rambo and even if I was in full battle fatigues I would be hurting if I ran through a fire.
not quite, running through fire wouldnt really hurt you so to say. running through a pool of burning gasoline will. if there was a puddle of gas on the floor and you run through it you're not gonna get hurt much unless you step into it and splash it all over yourself. as a quick experiment run your finger over a burning candle. but yes for fire coming from a compressed fuel source or spraying fuel source, that's going to hurt since the fuel itself is getting on to you

Re: BBQ insurgents A La Gasoline

Posted: 2009-08-11 07:56
by calstifer
It IS still a good idea...