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Elite worrior kit (taliban)
Posted: 2009-08-15 12:02
by HAAN4
this kit is limited, but still larger nunbers, do it's spawn nearby caches.
what is this basicly?
an AK47, scoped whicht EXTRA ACURACY.
it can match up any rifleman kits of all coalition forces.
you can find up 3 of those kits spawed on suply crates.
Re: Elite worrior kit (talibam)
Posted: 2009-08-15 12:04
by calstifer
Its somewhat realistic, there are some real soldiers trained in the taliban army.. then again you cant just pickup a kit and be specal forces...
Re: Elite worrior kit (talibam)
Posted: 2009-08-15 12:14
by HAAN4
and more, you can pick up, but still be spawing, so, it doens't matter 3 guys pick up the kits on cache all is lost, i can say this is like to simule't, the training that talibam give to his soldirs.
still this give a time to equip, entire squads up to coalition strengh. and to replish this forces, is quite. hard, but, when is redy. you have soldirs, and not just lifeless liking guys.
the spawn time, is ''quite'' quicly, loking to other kits. on insurgency mod.
cheers
Re: Elite worrior kit (talibam)
Posted: 2009-08-15 12:15
by DankE_SPB
taliban already have 2 sniper rifles, 3 SVD, 3 Grenadier kits= 8 scoped kits, more than enough
it can match up any rifleman kits of all coalition forces.
i dont like this suggestion at least for this, at the moment taliban just owns everything in CQB and suffers from optics and LMG from long ranges and this gives interesting aspect to gameplay
entire squads up to coalition strengh
and again, this will just make taliban "another coalition" so whats the point?
Re: Elite worrior kit (talibam)
Posted: 2009-08-15 12:20
by nick20404
Just use the grenadier kit, its accuracy is just as good as the US weapons and it has a scope, try waiting a little longer before firing and wait a few seconds between shots if you are trying to get accurate fire, I don't think the weapons could get anymore accurate without removing the deviation system altogether.
Re: Elite worrior kit (talibam)
Posted: 2009-08-15 12:33
by Tannhauser
We needz worriorz for teh talibums!!1!11
Uh, the title made me laugh
SVD are enough IMO
Re: Elite worrior kit (talibam)
Posted: 2009-08-15 12:35
by Rezza
We need worriorrss1!!1!!
its pretty needless the insurgent or the taliban forces are balanced as they are already.
Re: Elite worrior kit (talibam)
Posted: 2009-08-15 13:44
by Rudd
I don't like the idea, not because I don't want any kind of 'good' (for the lack of a better word) kit.
If som1 picks up the kit after the warrior dies, he also gets the accuracy. That makes no sense.
Its almost like a spec ops kit....
I would like to see a selection of differnet rifle kits of assualt rifle kind, with normal deviaion found throughout the battlefield myself, that would give the Taliban a more....irregular look
Re: Elite worrior kit (talibam)
Posted: 2009-08-15 13:52
by SgtFailure
Do take in mind that by giving the taliban more scoped weapons will more than likely result in them being used to base rape since its allowed in Insurgency maps. And by the rate that base raping is already taking place, this is probably a bad idea.
SgtFailure.
Re: Elite worrior kit (talibam)
Posted: 2009-08-15 14:01
by HAAN4
Dr2B Rudd wrote:I don't like the idea, not because I don't want any kind of 'good' (for the lack of a better word) kit.
If som1 picks up the kit after the warrior dies, he also gets the accuracy. That makes no sense.
Its almost like a spec ops kit....
I would like to see a selection of differnet rifle kits of assualt rifle kind, with normal deviaion found throughout the battlefield myself, that would give the Taliban a more....irregular look
it' isn't a matter of liking or not the ideia,
it is realism.
Insurgent may have a sucking soldiring skills.
but talibam are heavy trained forces, and some are figthing from childhood age. (those guys are the Elite worriors kits)
i kwon they have a majority of sucidiam guys. trained less. (but this hapens often in Insurgent faction) right?
(the talibam will never be right a coalition force, because this kit yet can be found quite in large nunber. but, you will always have to be nearby a cache to do this. renebering that each cache have up 3 kits spawn, so you have up 3 SVD, 2 SNIPER, 3 GRANADIER, and up 9 ELITE WORRIORS, whicht luck, well, you got up 17 scoped kits, but rebering, that to have all those kits working, you must spread the talibam forces on all caches, it mean a balaced defesive force. copy?, and it's not anymore balaced, such the SCOPED automatic rifleman can reape TALIBAM forces like shiet...
yet, this is ABOUT REALITY, we are making all the IRAQUE froces loking like NOOBS, not all of they are realy, you still have some REAL SOLDIRS there.
and anyway, coalition will spawn whicht scoped kits, in any place, any time, and all of they equiped, conting that ALL THE TEAM will have Rifleman Scoped kits. it means, that half of TALIBAM team to LESS, can macth those enemys whicht no penality.
remebering 2, that, maskman, Sniper still very weak in close combat.
that all things go to all guys. we are talking about talibam, not insurgents.
Re: Elite worrior kit (talibam)
Posted: 2009-08-15 14:06
by Rudd
let me rephrase. I don't like the idea on realism grounds either, as any1 that picks up a 'elite' kit during combat will suddenly be able to fire their AK more accurately, which doesn't make sense.
The deviation on teh AK weapons seems perfectly fine for either a regular or irregular army imo, the difference is scopes. and Taliban tactics would change to regular tactics if they got more. if that happened, you migh as well throw insurgency in the bin and put MEC on the map.
Re: Elite worrior kit (talibam)
Posted: 2009-08-15 14:14
by Indium
Re: Elite worrior kit (talibam)
Posted: 2009-08-15 14:18
by Masterbake
Ah yes, those Talibumbums, they always got very anxious about deadlines, exams and all that.
Re: Elite worrior kit (talibam)
Posted: 2009-08-15 15:27
by Heikkine
like in the real taliban ranks, ur rank is based on your skills and actions. so in order to get better kits, you need skill to take them from the coalition force! no changes required.

how about that.
Re: Elite worrior kit (talibam)
Posted: 2009-08-15 16:16
by ryan d ale
Dr2B Rudd wrote:let me rephrase. I don't like the idea on realism grounds either, as any1 that picks up a 'elite' kit during combat will suddenly be able to fire their AK more accurately, which doesn't make sense.
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In the same breath of air: I guess everyone is a trained sniper and EVERY soldier gets trained how to use a H-AT
It doesn't seem any different.
Dr2B Rudd wrote:
The deviation on teh AK weapons seems perfectly fine for either a regular or irregular army imo, the difference is scopes. and Taliban tactics would change to regular tactics if they got more. if that happened, you migh as well throw insurgency in the bin and put MEC on the map.
Reduced weapon accuracy and range in the spawn selectable rifle classes. Reduced weapon accuracy in the anti armor classes. No armored vehicles. No aircraft.
May as well give the Taliban some BDRMs with Snappers and Saggers to take care of the Strykers then because there's obviously no advantage to being coalition.
I don't disagree that they shouldn't get '3 Elite warrior kits' but...
I like the idea. Things could be a tiny bit better than at current but I don't know. Simply an interesting suggestion.
Re: Elite worrior kit (talibam)
Posted: 2009-08-15 17:31
by bloodthirsty_viking
i dissagree... how many countless times have taliban won? i mean think about it...
the taliban are not a long range fighters, talaban should set up ambushes at the choke points...i mean they have a combat engineer, have him set up mines and ied's on the street, have a scout with a hook set up on a hill, and move your infintry arround a choke point to kill the americans and take there kit.... i mean think about it, how often do you see a scoped ak... and also... with the close combat of most maps of taliban having trees everywhere, and mtns, its more close quarters the first thought.
plus if you die and it is a leet kit, americans will steel it, adn use it agians the taliban.
Re: Elite worrior kit (talibam)
Posted: 2009-08-15 17:36
by Rudd
ryan d ale wrote:In the same breath of air: I guess everyone is a trained sniper and EVERY soldier gets trained how to use a H-AT
It doesn't seem any different.
there is a difference, the HAT and the sniper are phyically differnet weapons, so ignoring skill or including skill they should be different.
an AK is an AK, an M16 is an M16, there is no magic "this m16 is more accurate than this m16"
Re: Elite worrior kit (talibam)
Posted: 2009-08-15 17:37
by rampo
1 most AK scopes are only made to fit the 74 and M models,
2. how is it possible for a weapon to be ''EXTRA ACURACY''?
3.''Talibam''s dont have supply crates
Re: Elite worrior kit (talibam)
Posted: 2009-08-15 20:28
by Dev1200
HAAN4 wrote:this kit is limited, but still larger nunbers, do it's spawn nearby caches.
what is this basicly?
an AK47, scoped whicht EXTRA ACURACY.
it can match up any rifleman kits of all coalition forces.
you can find up 3 of those kits spawed on suply crates.
Adding a scope to a weapon doesn't make it more accurate, it just gives you a better viewpoint.
Use an AK74 grenadier if you want an AK with a scope. Otherwise, the AK47 is mostly used as a CQB weapon, since it does more damage, albiet with less accuracy.