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Foot soldiers slower with heavy equipment
Posted: 2009-08-23 07:52
by Copper.8
This idea is quite simple. I believe that in vBf2, some soldiers can sprint for less time with what was identified as 'heavier equipment'.
In real life, not even some of the fittest people could carry a heavy weapon (such as the SRAW Heavy Anti-Tank) and keep up with someone like a normal infantryman.
To give a sense that you as a soldier carry heavy equipment and are disadvantaged, a weight and speed system should be implemented into PR. For example, when carrying a H-AT, you move slightly slower than a normal rifleman. This is not just for sprinting, but just when normally jogging as well as sprinting.
I'm not sure if this is hardcoded or not. If it is, another way is simply to make soldiers who carry heavier weapons run out of breath and stamina more quickly. And possibly, take longer to regain stamina. This is done based on kit, not individual equipment. Unless individual equipment is not hardcoded.
This would give a realistic sense that when you're carrying the heavier equipment, you will be let down by it.
Re: Foot soldiers slower with heavy equipment
Posted: 2009-08-23 07:56
by SkaterCrush
I was wondering this too, but maybe the only way the devs could reduce the sprint time was for everyone? I would like to see this in-game too
Re: Foot soldiers slower with heavy equipment
Posted: 2009-08-23 08:17
by Cobhris
AFAIK, BF2 has one sprint time for classes considered "light", and another for classes considered "heavy". Perhaps the devs could use this to make classes with heavy equipment move slower than the standard rifleman.
Re: Foot soldiers slower with heavy equipment
Posted: 2009-08-23 08:32
by Gore
Yea if it's possible H-AT kits should run out of stamina faster than the regular soldiers.
Re: Foot soldiers slower with heavy equipment
Posted: 2009-08-23 09:31
by SkaterCrush
GoreZiad wrote:Yea if it's possible H-AT kits should run out of stamina faster than the regular soldiers.
And they should be slower. I'd add the SAW kit and the LAT. Maybe even the AA kit?
Re: Foot soldiers slower with heavy equipment
Posted: 2009-08-23 10:00
by Rudd
I don't see the point with current kits.
e.g. the Grenadier would have more stuff since he carries a heavier weapon and the associated ammo. BUT PR has removed is normal equipment- i.e. hand grenades etc. So his weight ingame is equal and therfore will travel the same speed ingame.
Re: Foot soldiers slower with heavy equipment
Posted: 2009-08-23 10:42
by 77SiCaRiO77
GoreZiad wrote:Yea if it's possible H-AT kits should run out of stamina faster than the regular soldiers.
that would be interesting , making HAT teams slower than regular rifleman squads , therefor more likely to be ambushed or flanked
Re: Foot soldiers slower with heavy equipment
Posted: 2009-08-23 10:58
by hx.bjoffe
You cannot request slower speed, only spawn with it IIRC.
But yeah, would be awesome.
Re: Foot soldiers slower with heavy equipment
Posted: 2009-08-23 11:02
by Gore
[R-DEV]77SiCaRiO77 wrote:that would be interesting , making HAT teams slower than regular rifleman squads , therefor more likely to be ambushed or flanked
I fail to see why that's bad. Even if being a H-AT myself. I guess you operate alone as antitank.
Re: Foot soldiers slower with heavy equipment
Posted: 2009-08-23 11:18
by Dunehunter
Gore, I don't see him implying that it would be bad

Re: Foot soldiers slower with heavy equipment
Posted: 2009-08-23 22:18
by Ccharge
dont see this working. A soldier who picks up a kit with G still keeps his old spawned kits chararistics. (thats why we got brits running around with ins head dresses) unfortuntly this means that a soldier cclassified as Light is still Light. Its a VBf2 thing.
Re: Foot soldiers slower with heavy equipment
Posted: 2009-08-23 22:29
by Spaz
I think its a bad idea, it will just be harder to keep a squad together if some players move faster then others.
Re: Foot soldiers slower with heavy equipment
Posted: 2009-08-23 23:35
by Dev1200
It's not hardcoded.. In vBF2, Snipers, medics, special forces, and engineers have more sprint because they have lighter gear and lighter armor. The Assault, anti tank, and support classes have more armor, so they have less sprint.
Re: Foot soldiers slower with heavy equipment
Posted: 2009-08-24 00:32
by Wilkinson
It is not Hardcoded your right. but the problem is that if you spawn light Infantry and pick up a Heavy Asset, I don't think the Code Carries on.
Unless they do it to the kit which I think is possible. I like this idea.
Re: Foot soldiers slower with heavy equipment
Posted: 2009-08-24 01:52
by Tim270
Dont see how this would actually change or add anything to game-play, it would make playing the class a lot more annoying and just take longer to get places rather than any game-play mechanic being enacted.
Re: Foot soldiers slower with heavy equipment
Posted: 2009-08-24 03:03
by Celestial1
Spaz wrote:I think its a bad idea, it will just be harder to keep a squad together if some players move faster then others.
+1
First thing I thought; didn't they originally have this in place during earlier iterations of the mod since vBF2 had already functioned this way, and it was removed to improve squad cohesion?
I wouldn't be
too miffed to see
sprint speed or regeneration lowered (probably not both), but actually making them walk slower entirely will make them lag behind the squad, which is not a good thing if we want squad cohesion.
Re: Foot soldiers slower with heavy equipment
Posted: 2009-08-24 04:27
by Cobhris
Dev1200 wrote:It's not hardcoded.. In vBF2, Snipers, medics, special forces, and engineers have more sprint because they have lighter gear and lighter armor. The Assault, anti tank, and support classes have more armor, so they have less sprint.
But if you pick up a kit, you don't get the armor. In BF2, if you spawn as a light soldier and pick up a kit that normally belongs to heavy infantry, you will still have light armor and the sprint that goes with it.