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1 Hat sniping.
Is it possible to make it to where hats can not kill hovering choppers? I would not think they would do that in real life. Encourage people to use AA more often over Hats for AA But the Lats would not be a problem because it is hard to shoot a heli down with one

2 When will we see the modern German army?
I think that would be something great and new to add to the mix

flyboy_fx wrote:1 Hat sniping.
Is it possible to make it to where hats can not kill hovering choppers? I would not think they would do that in real life. Encourage people to use AA more often over Hats for AA But the Lats would not be a problem because it is hard to shoot a heli down with one

Well the javelin can be used via air targets and I wouldn´t be surprised if other HAT weapons could too.

The problem isn´t with the HAT, but rather with many other things.

Alex6714 wrote:Well the javelin can be used via air targets and I wouldn´t be surprised if other HAT weapons could too.

The problem isn´t with the HAT, but rather with many other things.

yeah...the problem aint the HAT, it's the bad pilot sitting there hovering in the wrong place.

flyboy_fx wrote:1 Hat sniping.
Is it possible to make it to where hats can not kill hovering choppers? I would not think they would do that in real life. Encourage people to use AA more often over Hats for AA But the Lats would not be a problem because it is hard to shoot a heli down with one

2 When will we see the modern German army?
I think that would be something great and new to add to the mix

1. Already answered.
2.

no, chopper + rocket = explosion.

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flyboy_fx wrote:1 Hat sniping.
Is it possible to make it to where hats can not kill hovering choppers? I would not think they would do that in real life. Encourage people to use AA more often over Hats for AA But the Lats would not be a problem because it is hard to shoot a heli down with one

2 When will we see the modern German army?
I think that would be something great and new to add to the mix

OMG! Nerf the HAT? Maybe increase deviation 100 times if you aim upwards +10 degrees off the horizon? K, sarcasm aside. lol

1) In war, when people don't have the proper resources or equipment at a certain time, people get creative and make do with what they've got. Think Saving Private Ryan, at the end scene, they used SockBombs to take out the track of the tanks. "OMG! Nerf those SockBombs! They stick to tanks and INSTANT-track tanks?" Although SPR is based on a real war and event, I can give you a real life example as well. When the PLA was first formed and ghetto, without proper artillery guns, soldiers would become inventive and use a smaller explosive charge to launch a larger explosive pack at enemies, simulating the effect of artillery.

In other words, when there's no AA or stingers around, a HAT is a perfectly logical alternative to destroying a helicopter. In fact, haven't you of that farmer in iraq who shot down an apache with a rifle?

2) Germans should be in the next next release if I recall correctly since Canadians and Israelis are in .9.

Why would it be impossible to shoot down a real life chopper with a HAT? A HAT is usually a wire guided missile, you cant jam that. Alot of Anti-air systems relies on missiles controllable by the gunner, which are supposed to be used against moving targets, how easy wouldnt it be then to hit something that is still and has the same size as a tank.

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Yea I suppose you are right with the hat and I can not wait for the Germans xD

But it is annoying when your cobra pilot sits there then you get shot down with a Hat lol

Thats why I fly.

BTW why do the flares glitch like that can it be fixed?

flyboy_fx wrote: BTW why do the flares glitch like that can it be fixed?

Explain?

flyboy_fx wrote:
BTW why do the flares glitch like that can it be fixed?

i dunno what u mean ... explanation pls

Oh well when you get locked on by AA and sometimes when you deploy flares it gives you that click like they are out of ammo when they are not then when its to late they deploy.

Stop hovering and problem is solved.

TheLean wrote:Why would it be impossible to shoot down a real life chopper with a HAT? A HAT is usually a wire guided missile, you cant jam that. Alot of Anti-air systems relies on missiles controllable by the gunner, which are supposed to be used against moving targets, how easy wouldnt it be then to hit something that is still and has the same size as a tank.

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Suppose the helo dodges the missile, and the rotor blades or something destroys the wire.

What then?

Anyhow if you're using a tank, HAT, or anything that isn't dedicated AA, you are either a guerrilla force or you have lost the war.

Hunt3r wrote: Anyhow if you're using a tank, HAT, or anything that isn't dedicated AA, you are either a guerrilla force or you have lost the war.

Actually in terms of helicopters I've always felt much safer with a single IFV guarding me from helicopters than I could if I had 2 AAvs.

As to HAT sniping, so long as the target is within range of the launcher and then it shouldn't be a problem. It's quite easy in PR since helicopters are limited in efficiency to remaining stationary when firing from any distance, so it's quite easy to time it.

McLuv wrote:Actually in terms of helicopters I've always felt much safer with a single IFV guarding me from helicopters than I could if I had 2 AAvs.

As to HAT sniping, so long as the target is within range of the launcher and then it shouldn't be a problem. It's quite easy in PR since helicopters are limited in efficiency to remaining stationary when firing from any distance, so it's quite easy to time it.

Which is a huge problem, because you have to basically slowly and methodically clear out the entire map, spraying cannon and hellfire everywhere to make sure the place is clear.

McLuv wrote:Actually in terms of helicopters I've always felt much safer with a single IFV guarding me from helicopters than I could if I had 2 AAvs.

As to HAT sniping, so long as the target is within range of the launcher and then it shouldn't be a problem. It's quite easy in PR since helicopters are limited in efficiency to remaining stationary when firing from any distance, so it's quite easy to time it.

I dont know if you guys are right with fireing a hat against a chopper. As i see in many vids u have to look on the target. I dont know if its even possible that this happens on a chopper.

But thats not the point. For me the point is that the choppers in pr are far away from that what the can do and have in RL.

So for me its not ok that the hat guys can do something thats not proofed, and the choppers must life with with all the missing things...

Flir Cam
canon stabilisation
lock on warnings
and so on.

So for me it would be great if its not possible any more to use hat against choppers.

Because of the game balance.

And the guys that said "dont hover" then plz tell us how we can hit something or even see the enemy when the target is not Lasered...

The only way then is to get in, shoot out all the ammo you have( massive spam, and not target shooting) then go rearm and the same again.

You really want this that way? i dont think so.

@bsurd wrote:I dont know if you guys are right with fireing a hat against a chopper.
So for me its not ok that the hat guys can do something thats not proofed, and the choppers must life with with all the missing things...

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FM 3-22.32 "M41 Improved Target Acquisition System (for TOW ATGM)," JULY 2005, HEADQUARTERS, DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY
4-11. HELICOPTER ENGAGEMENT

FIELD MANUAL 3-22.1" BRADLEY GUNNERY," NOVEMBER 2003, HEADQUARTERS, DEPARTMENT OF THE ARMY
c. Beyond 1,700 meters, the 25-mm uses too much ammunition for each kill. Thus, the crew uses the TOW weapon system against stationary, slow moving (up to 50 MPH) aerial targets between 1,700 and 2,000 meters. Nevertheless, the gunner should use the TOW against helicopters only when necessary.

Cool xD

I never hover on maps other than kashan but as for the cobra PILOT LOL.

I was just wondering about the German army my friend wanted to know/complain about the hats. I have already shot 2 hueys down with a Hat xD

BTW will we ever get some Spec-Ops maps? Like Seals vs Spentnaz I think it ??: they are called and will we ever get some moon lit night maps?

Use the edit button in future rather than double posting

-Bob

flyboy_fx wrote: BTW will we ever get some Spec-Ops maps? Like Seals vs Spentnaz I think it ??:

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