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Make grapling hook a requestable kit.
Posted: 2009-11-03 17:48
by goguapsy
So I was sitting here typing at the Beta forum and I thought: why does anyone can have a grapling hook?
IRL, I believe, not every soldier can climb rope easily as in PR. Therefore I suggest this:
-Make grapling hooks (Rifleman Specialist) a requestable kit, like 3 or 4 for each team with the same restrictions as the other specialized kits.
This would make a squad become more "elite", being able to climb a rope with all that equipment...
AND/OR
-Make climbing a rope slower and/or stamina using. Ropes are not easy to climb at all I believe... specially with all that equipment soldiers carry (and the lack of fitness of insurgents).
What do you guys think?
ALSO, I would really like grapling hooks could be used in a more "horizontal" montion (as in, you can use to rope to move over a hill that is too steep for you to move through it (you slide in BF2), you know? Perhaps it could be allied with some "grapling sensor" as in a rope will slide down the hill if it isn't properly placed (like, over a wall or beyond a ledge or something) 'cuz ropes don't "glue" to the ground.
So, any remarks?
Cheers!
Re: Make grapling hook a requestable kit.
Posted: 2009-11-03 18:09
by arjan
goguapsy wrote:So I was sitting here typing at the Beta forum and I thought: why does anyone can have a grapling hook?
IRL, I believe, not every soldier can climb rope easily as in PR. Therefore I suggest this:
-Make grapling hooks (Rifleman Specialist) a requestable kit, like 3 or 4 for each team with the same restrictions as the other specialized kits.
This would make a squad become more
"elite", being able to climb a rope with all that equipment...
AND/OR
-Make climbing a rope slower and/or stamina using. Ropes are not easy to climb at all I believe... specially with all that equipment soldiers carry (and the lack of fitness of insurgents).
What do you guys think?
I dont know mate, but climbing ropes aint hard 
Alos makeing them more elite aint a good argument
ALSO, I would really like grapling hooks could be used in a more "horizontal" montion (as in, you can use to rope to move over a hill that is too steep for you to move through it (you slide in BF2), you know? Perhaps it could be allied with some "grapling sensor" as in a rope will slide down the hill if it isn't properly placed (like, over a wall or beyond a ledge or something) 'cuz ropes don't "glue" to the ground.
Ropes can only be used on statics
So, any remarks?
Cheers!
Answers in bold
Re: Make grapling hook a requestable kit.
Posted: 2009-11-03 18:11
by Nebsif
Im against that unless they buff the kit, like replacing the breaching slug with buckshot, or tripflares with flashbangz, I dont see much ppl taking specialist, its completely useless on some maps, so why make it limited anyway? (Tripflares = fail!)
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Posted: 2009-11-03 19:43
by goguapsy
arjan wrote:Answers in bold
Correct me if I'm wrong, but soldiers do carry a lot of equipments right?
Also, what I meant "elite" would simply mean "that squad can climb ropes" but it would also mean that not everyone could climb it...
And to what Nebsif said,
Every Map has a place to use a grappling hook.
(I'm so very deep... in words...)
Re: Make grapling hook a requestable kit.
Posted: 2009-11-03 20:09
by hiberNative
nah i want more ropes for the masses. always fun to use, so don't limit fun just for the sake of it.
Re: Make grapling hook a requestable kit.
Posted: 2009-11-03 20:42
by Zimmer
Ropes are a metaphor for getting yourself up the Y axis, for example, a person can climb a bf2 soldier can not, a soldier can just smash the doors and get on a higher level in a house, a BF2 soldier can not do that unless the house is designed to get in.
Re: Make grapling hook a requestable kit.
Posted: 2009-11-03 21:03
by rampo
My opinnions don't make them requestable! Some people would just start griefing them leaving suads that realy need some help whit roofs
Re: Make grapling hook a requestable kit.
Posted: 2009-11-03 22:42
by Wilkinson
Pointless. Good Suggestion, but either way the rope is a rope. I'm sure you could even make a make-shift rope if you had to.
Re: Make grapling hook a requestable kit.
Posted: 2009-11-03 23:10
by scope
I don't understand why people think the kit is useless. Everymap has doors that need breached or buildings that can be climbed. So what if it doesn't have a super leet scope or super spam grenades...learn to use a red dot.
Re: Make grapling hook a requestable kit.
Posted: 2009-11-04 03:52
by Gore
Zimmer wrote:Ropes are a metaphor for getting yourself up the Y axis, for example, a person can climb a bf2 soldier can not, a soldier can just smash the doors and get on a higher level in a house, a BF2 soldier can not do that unless the house is designed to get in.
This^^ And first the grenadier sights was changed so everyone can 1337 them, don't even think about doing that to the hook.
Re: Make grapling hook a requestable kit.
Posted: 2009-11-04 08:37
by abbadon101
The hook is also to symbolize other equipment soldiers carry, like ladders (used by british troops in building assaults) which can be used faster than a rope could be.
IMHO the rope is fine, needs no change.
Re: Make grapling hook a requestable kit.
Posted: 2009-11-04 08:45
by BogusBoo
Come on guys, i mean in real life you would'nt see grapples in *every* squad....i would like them to become limited kits if you ask me.
Re: Make grapling hook a requestable kit.
Posted: 2009-11-04 09:42
by abbadon101
No but IRL you can climb over a 10 foot wall with 2 people and you dont need a rope.
Re: Make grapling hook a requestable kit.
Posted: 2009-11-04 19:01
by tiki-dog
I'm sure the soldier TRAIN with weights in their backs so they can climb ropes very well.
Mainly the specialists.
Re: Make grapling hook a requestable kit.
Posted: 2009-11-04 19:25
by rampo
tiki-dog wrote:I'm sure the soldier TRAIN with weights in their backs so they can climb ropes very well.
Mainly the specialists.
Never heard about people climing ropes whit weights but i cant seem to ignore but u have a remarcably simular avatar to someone else on the forums
