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When I was playing Taliban medic in PR,I noticed that everytime I finished reloading my Lee Enfield rifle ,2 empty bullet charger will be dropped.

Is it possible to create some kind of magazine dropping effect in game?
its like a used magazine drop on the ground after reloading weapons.

bullet charger,that little metal clip holding the bullets

well magazines are not dropped in battle but are reused and put in the mag pouch, only during tactical reloads would it be even remotely thought of doing it that way.

clips like those are not saved though to my knowledge, MA's would know better

and btw it's called a clip

Okay,thanks for info

what about weapons like AT4,RPG-26?

do soldiers still carry them after used? just wondering

You mean like this?

why not insurgents drop their clips... do they really do tactical reloads? hmm...

goguapsy wrote:why not insurgents drop their clips... do they really do tactical reloads? hmm...

i would think they would be more protective of their magazines as they dont have a multi million dollar budget buying them new toys.

ankyle62 wrote:i would think they would be more protective of their magazines as they dont have a multi million dollar budget buying them new toys.

Well I would also believe that they would be freaking out and waste all of the bullets in their mags. I mean, the multi billion dollar budget is spent on making US soldiers know how to save mags...

but when thats the only two magazines you have and you know you arent getting another one, you would treat it like gold.

goguapsy wrote:Well I would also believe that they would be freaking out and waste all of the bullets in their mags. I mean, the multi billion dollar budget is spent on making US soldiers know how to save mags...

Guerrilla tactics, insurgents use them. And ofc, that means using everything at hand, and NOT wasting reusable clips/mags.

If talibans are still fighting up to now, it's because they're smarter (tactic-wise) than many might think.

I always noticed that a clip-drop sound was missing from reloading sequences of the Enfield and Mosin Nagant (is the Mosin Nagant still in?).
Some sound effect of the empty clip hitting the ground would be a nice touch. Even putting in the sound of an ordinary casing hitting the ground would put my mind at ease.

Tannhauser wrote:Guerrilla tactics, insurgents use them. And ofc, that means using everything at hand, and NOT wasting reusable clips/mags.

If talibans are still fighting up to now, it's because they're smarter (tactic-wise) than many might think.

perhaps. Well, insurgents do depend on guerilla tactics to win battles, but when I think about it, I think about some patriotic speech or anti-american speech in favor of their "motherland"...


And yes, I do believe they would keep it like gold... but perhaps, in PR reality, insurgents cannot load ammo anywhere I think... which means they drop ammo, while the americans and conventional armies "resupply" on the supply crates (new mags or just putting rounds inside a clip...) but yeah, IRL they would keep it.

İn youtube Chechen Mujahideen reload ak-47 mag(not weapon, mag!!!) during combat.Because they need whatever they have in combat so they dont waste anything.

For example Mujahideens dont firing fully-oto they fire semi or burst.Because they must care about on every bullets in their hands.

it drives me nuts when i do a tactical reload and i hear the sound of a round hit the deck. its not like you have to touch the bolt to pop out a magazine. im guessing you cant program that in though.

Its just way cheaper for the army to re-use empty mags, and if you put them in your mag-bags and you're out of ammo you can always throw them to the enemies' heads .

goguapsy wrote:perhaps. Well, insurgents do depend on guerilla tactics to win battles, but when I think about it, I think about some patriotic speech or anti-american speech in favor of their "motherland"...


And yes, I do believe they would keep it like gold... but perhaps, in PR reality, insurgents cannot load ammo anywhere I think... which means they drop ammo, while the americans and conventional armies "resupply" on the supply crates (new mags or just putting rounds inside a clip...) but yeah, IRL they would keep it.

and that's where the cache comes in...

[R-CON]motherdear wrote:well magazines are not dropped in battle but are reused and put in the mag pouch, only during tactical reloads would it be even remotely thought of doing it that way.

clips like those are not saved though to my knowledge, MA's would know better

and btw it's called a clip

As far as I know, after the last bullet is fired, the magazine holder in an enfield gets tossed out with a ping, so the soldier in question would have to search for it on the ground. At the time nobody thought of magazine retention. I might mistake it with whatever the Americans used in WWII though.

that was the m1 that ejected with a ping

And it's a clip that is ejected from the Garand(and used in the Enfield), which is just a small metal piece to keep the rounds together, I doubt they were re-used. Magazines, like the ones in SMGs I would think were re-used back then as well.

Read:
Clip (ammunition) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Magazine (firearms) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The google knows. Use it.

If you look at the enfield animation you'll see it's quite realistic, except that it ignores the number of rounds that may be present in the magazine already. The fixed magazine simply has a spring for pushing rounds up and feed them to the chamber, it doesn't eject anything. I would be interested to know whether soldiers kept or discarded the clips, but I would assume they kept them. They are fairly small and very useful.

BloodBane611 wrote:Read:
I would be interested to know whether soldiers kept or discarded the clips, but I would assume they kept them. They are fairly small and very useful.

I shall ask the grandfather when I next see him as he served with the RE back in 1940, but then again with old age he may not remember.