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I've been playing PR for a long time now and i think it's brilliant however i do have to say that a number of server based issues really bug me. The emphasis is obviously on Reality with this mod so surely server rules and decisions should try to reflect this.

For instance, how can PR be run with the NO BASERAPE rule? this rule baffles me. Part of warfare is hitting the enemy from their source, if you can take out a MBT leaving the enemys main then you have to take the opportunity, you were good enough to get into a position to do it!, In reality the main base would be defended, if you cant organise defense for your base then thats your fault.
On Kashan i went all the way to the mountains in front of the enemys main with a supply truck and shot down two helis and and F16, they were just outside their main. This to me is proper REALISTIC warfare. But i got kicked for it.

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no because project realtys map are to small for baserape as the main base often has to be placedwhere enemies can fire open it easly when in real life i dought this could/would happen. also there is often no-one defending the main from attack, because the servers are not large enough to have a squad dedicated to defending main
oh and maybe read server rules before playing will hlep

In reality people would be manning base defenses like the AA. With only 32 players per side this would keep players from the front lines, where the battle is supposed to take place.

Do note that some servers, such as TG, allow it on maps where the main flag can be capped, but only when that flag is in play because the fight has been taken there. For example Qwai and Kashan's mains can be attacked when the main base flags are marked as in play for the other team. Otherwise base rape is simply a lone pilot/tank taking advantage of the points system by attacking where the enemy should not be, as the team should be out in the field.

Why does baserape ruin gameplay? Because it takes a jet 10 seconds to fly straight across the ENTIRE battlefield and if you want it to be realistic in the sense that a base needs defending squads sure, but then we'd need more than 64 players on a server. A battlefield in real life is usually a bit bigger than 4 square kilometers.

You have to adjust rules and gameplay to the limits of the engine and I just don't see what you're actually complaining about.

Reality is portrayed within the confines of a game engine.

IRL you wouldn't see 32 people vs 32 people like in PR

IRL you would have reserves guarding the base

you can baserape if you want, just rent a server and have that rule. Otherwise, let the people who pay for and run servers prevent baserape which has valid realistic arguements against it.

Oh not this again, it has been discussed to death many times. Look it up.

i think that insurgency gamemode should allow insurgents to baserape.
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shrivaldo wrote:In reality the main base would be defended, if you cant organise defense for your base then thats your fault.

Ah, I love this argument. Its always the base rapers who pull it out too, no one ever volunteers to sit in the main base watching the horizon the entire round, I bet you wouldn't either.

I mean, whats more fun than when you finally have a couple of hours to spend gaming have to spend them in your main base incase some idiot shows up, and when he doesn't, you have just wasted those hours doing nothing, yay great fun.

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you can baserape if you want, just rent a server and have that rule. Otherwise, let the people who pay for and run servers prevent baserape which has valid realistic arguements against it.[/quote]

Totally agree. Well stated.

[quote="Cp""]Ah, I love this argument. Its always the base rapers who pull it out too, no one ever volunteers to sit in the main base watching the horizon the entire round, I bet you wouldn't either.

I mean, whats more fun than when you finally have a couple of hours to spend gaming have to spend them in your main base incase some idiot shows up, and when he doesn't, you have just wasted those hours doing nothing, yay great fun.[/quote]

I've noticed that too.

the "this is reality" threads are always fun, and usually look same- i've been lone-wolfing, pwned somebody at base and got kicked, or "i cant hit shit at 100m and reload should be 1 second, look at this guy making tacticool reload near his sofa at home *ytvideo here*"

shrivaldo wrote: This to me is proper REALISTIC warfare.

yeah, its so realistic to grab a truck, drive 5 km to enemy airfield, take kit from box and get tonns of missile from it

baserape is bad is not only because its not fun for enemy team, but it also ruins fun for your team, because they have pretty much nothing to fight with

for me, the only acceptable variation of baserape- is putting mines, everything else- goodbye from server

[R-CON]Rudd wrote:you can baserape if you want, just rent a server and have that rule. Otherwise, let the people who pay for and run servers prevent baserape which has valid realistic arguements against it.

nuff said
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This has been brought up many times before, play by the rules the server admins are giving or simply join another server (one that allows baserape, in this case).

shrivaldo wrote:I've been playing PR for a long time now and i think it's brilliant however i do have to say that a number of server based issues really bug me. The emphasis is obviously on Reality with this mod so surely server rules and decisions should try to reflect this.

For instance, how can PR be run with the NO BASERAPE rule? this rule baffles me. Part of warfare is hitting the enemy from their source, if you can take out a MBT leaving the enemys main then you have to take the opportunity, you were good enough to get into a position to do it!, In reality the main base would be defended, if you cant organise defense for your base then thats your fault.
On Kashan i went all the way to the mountains in front of the enemys main with a supply truck and shot down two helis and and F16, they were just outside their main. This to me is proper REALISTIC warfare. But i got kicked for it.

PROJECT REALITY, R E A L I T Y

Maybe the rule is there to stop people like you. Its still a game. If you want reality, don't respawn.

shrivaldo wrote:
For instance, how can PR be run with the NO BASERAPE rule? this rule baffles me. Part of warfare is hitting the enemy from their source

Because it's still a game and therefor must satisfy its players whit a mix of game-play and in project realitys situation- milsim. However it sucks if you'd have to spawn at main only so that an enemy tank/APC is raping everyone who spawns

yeah because IRL you have 2 "main bases" so close to each other... come on.

maarit wrote:i think that insurgency gamemode should allow insurgents to baserape.
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Most servers do allow Insurgents to attack the BluFor base.

shrivaldo wrote: On Kashan i went all the way to the mountains in front of the enemys main with a supply truck and shot down two helis and and F16, they were just outside their main. This to me is proper REALISTIC warfare. But i got kicked for it.

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Because, of course, driving a truck deep into enemy lines on your own as a regular grunt with a MANPAD is veeerrrry realistic.

In real life the enemy wont be always seraching for the main base theyll stick with the task in hand of defending and takeing back postions they have lost.Theyll worry about the main after the taking of postions is done.

myles wrote:In real life the enemy wont be always seraching for the main base theyll stick with the task in hand of defending and takeing back postions they have lost.Theyll worry about the main after the taking of postions is done.

and your basing this on what, your fast knowledge of military tactics?

gazzthompson wrote:and your basing this on what, your fast knowledge of military tactics?

d00d he's a PR player, that's got to be at least comparable to a 3 tour Iraq vet!