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Bomb cars coming in different colors

Posted: 2010-01-05 15:52
by boilerrat
Right now the bomb car is straight RED and ANY blufor will see a red car and instantly persue and be paranoid.

Thats because the bomb car is ONLY red...

But if you see videos of VBIEDs on liveleak, you will watch like 20 cars go by with many of them being red but you don't see the soldiers shoot at red cars... the bomb could be in any car.


What would this add to gameplay?
It would enable the insurgents to use the bomb cars more successfully because of the unkown.


But the insurgents are supposed to do hit and runs and be stealthy...
That thought is just a work around because all the bomb cars are red.... its almost impossible to sneak up on a tank on basrah.


Is it ingame already?
No.

Is it possible to have random color spawned bomb cars? Or just delay the spawn of different color cars so it wouldn't be over powering.

Start of round: two bomb cars spawn, like the basrah tank they explode and are gone for good.

20 minutes later two more bomb cars spawn but in a different position from the original ones.

Just not-spawn the same color twice.

Re: Bomb cars coming in different colors

Posted: 2010-01-05 15:53
by Donatello
agreed

PR bomb cars are too bright now

Re: Bomb cars coming in different colors

Posted: 2010-01-05 16:10
by Herbiie
Imho we need Civvi Cars and Insurgent Cars, Insurgent cars are exactly the same as civvi cars but civvi's can't drive them (or if they do they can be shot) and have a small slogan on them (So that it is possible to tell the difference, just hard to tell) and some have bombs in. Civvi cars will be like they are now but insurgents can't get in them only collaborators and if the Blufor shoot them then their souls shall be sent to hell.

Re: Bomb cars coming in different colors

Posted: 2010-01-05 16:19
by LithiumFox
Herbiie wrote:Imho we need Civvi Cars and Insurgent Cars, Insurgent cars are exactly the same as civvi cars but civvi's can't drive them (or if they do they can be shot) and have a small slogan on them (So that it is possible to tell the difference, just hard to tell) and some have bombs in. Civvi cars will be like they are now but insurgents can't get in them only collaborators and if the Blufor shoot them then their souls shall be sent to hell.

Agreed. =/ Civvies should be able to use cars just like normal. =) Now if you clearly see a guy with an RPG in the vehicle i think you should be allowed to kill them. xD (maybe make it so that they can only drive with other civvies? > > I mean.... honestly.... o_o if they drive with people with weapons then they would be able to be shot at due to the fact there is a guy with a weapon in it. =/

Re: Bomb cars coming in different colors

Posted: 2010-01-05 16:26
by SleepyHe4d
Yeah, if you're gonna have a game mode based around insurgency, then go all the way in that aspect and make it realistic.

The only problem is punishment for killing civvies that get too close. In real life you aren't punished for killing a civilian that is rushing your squad/convoy with a car.

Is there any way to take away civ punishment if you kill them if they are within 50m in a car or 20m on foot or something similar? :p

Re: Bomb cars coming in different colors

Posted: 2010-01-05 16:28
by Donatello
LithiumFox wrote:Agreed. =/ Civvies should be able to use cars just like normal. =) Now if you clearly see a guy with an RPG in the vehicle i think you should be allowed to kill them. xD (maybe make it so that they can only drive with other civvies? > > I mean.... honestly.... o_o if they drive with people with weapons then they would be able to be shot at due to the fact there is a guy with a weapon in it. =/
imagine, that weapons are hidden under seat/clothes.
so we can drive nearby US and open fire SUDDENLY! :shock:
like IRL. is it Project Reality or what? ))

it could be another trick in addition to bomb cars, IED, civies, grenade traps.......

windows should be non-transparent.

Re: Bomb cars coming in different colors

Posted: 2010-01-05 16:36
by freeway
it is not gonna make any differrences , ppl will shoot any vehicle that is not on their side dont matter if it is red or blue . we could make it so that when a civil drives a car by himself we cant shoot or we ll get punished like in real life u just cant shoot any vehicle . if we could do this then the game will be more fun cuz blufor really have to watch out for cars pass by since they cant shoot civil himself in a car + make any car could be a bomb car ( dont know if this could be done) . i dont like the idea we could shoot at every vehicle even if it is operated by a civil so not right

Re: Bomb cars coming in different colors

Posted: 2010-01-05 16:39
by Herbiie
Donatello wrote:imagine, that weapons are hidden under seat/clothes.
so we can drive nearby US and open fire SUDDENLY! :shock:
like IRL. is it Project Reality or what? ))
Well if you see the weapon then fair enough - with mine Guys with weapons won't be able to get in civvi cars but civvis will, but you won't know if they have weapons or not unless they are sitting on the roof listening to Jihad music.

Re: Bomb cars coming in different colors

Posted: 2010-01-05 16:59
by Nimise
I like the idea but I really dont see it helping all that much. If a vehicle is coming at the tank they usually shoot it no matter the colour.

Re: Bomb cars coming in different colors

Posted: 2010-01-05 17:04
by PLODDITHANLEY
Blufor shoots anything that moves, so whatever the car colour, it will be fired at.

Re: Bomb cars coming in different colors

Posted: 2010-01-05 17:06
by Donatello
Nimise wrote:I like the idea but I really dont see it helping all that much. If a vehicle is coming at the tank they usually shoot it no matter the colour.
punishment must be increased then.

DEVs should decide, is it normal battle US vs Ins, or game represents dangerous streets of occupied city with civies mixed up with Ins, where you can not shoot every car (because of real punishment).

Re: Bomb cars coming in different colors

Posted: 2010-01-05 17:16
by Tartantyco
wuuut? I've seen differently colored bomb cars in PR...

Re: Bomb cars coming in different colors

Posted: 2010-01-05 17:17
by dbzao
Pretty sure we have different color bombcars, but they just need to be added to the maps.

Re: Bomb cars coming in different colors

Posted: 2010-01-05 17:47
by Vege
PLODDITHANLEY wrote:Blufor shoots anything that moves, so whatever the car colour, it will be fired at.
2 Cars heading your way, one is red, others are white, you ofcos shoot the red fist as you know it might be a bombcar.
People hardly ever tell in teamchat if car passes them by. Red car headed for US base and someone might bother.
Just a few situations where different kinds of bomb cars would be better than having all of em the same colour.

Re: Bomb cars coming in different colors

Posted: 2010-01-05 18:06
by Tarantula
Maybe you shouold make a certain type of car that can only be driven by civilians and is not allowed to be shot at. Considering Blufor do shoot at anything that moves ( guilty) make them reconsider their shots, this with random bomb car colours should make it intense and realistic

Re: Bomb cars coming in different colors

Posted: 2010-01-05 20:16
by badmojo420
[R-DEV]dbzao wrote:Pretty sure we have different color bombcars, but they just need to be added to the maps.
Not in the current version.

There's only one bomb car, which is in /vehicles/xpak_vehicles/xpak_civ1_bomber/

Re: Bomb cars coming in different colors

Posted: 2010-01-05 22:28
by sniperrocks
PLODDITHANLEY wrote:Blufor shoots anything that moves, so whatever the car colour, it will be fired at.
Yeah, but a red car is really easy to spot
A white car on the other hand may be a bit harder to see :P

Re: Bomb cars coming in different colors

Posted: 2010-01-05 22:30
by Silly_Savage
Tarantula wrote:Maybe you shouold make a certain type of car that can only be driven by civilians and is not allowed to be shot at. Considering Blufor do shoot at anything that moves ( guilty) make them reconsider their shots, this with random bomb car colours should make it intense and realistic
What happens when that civilian car decides it wants to turn BLUFOR into road kill?

According to your ROE, BLUFOR would be unable to engage that threat without suffering the penalties.

Also, badmojo is correct. The only bomb cars in PR at the moment are the red bomb cars and its' big brother, Big Red.

Re: Bomb cars coming in different colors

Posted: 2010-01-05 22:44
by Herbiie
Tarantula wrote:Maybe you shouold make a certain type of car that can only be driven by civilians and is not allowed to be shot at. Considering Blufor do shoot at anything that moves ( guilty) make them reconsider their shots, this with random bomb car colours should make it intense and realistic
I defer you to my earlier post :P

@ Silly Savage : What happens is that the Blufor don't just walk down the road and move out of the way, or shoot the driver if he hits someone.

Maybe a rule that if a civvi hurts anyone they are liable targets? With a long respawn time, so that people don't kill with a civvi cus it's not worth it?

Re: Bomb cars coming in different colors

Posted: 2010-01-05 23:13
by boilerrat
No more civilian discussion in my thread.... this is about different color bomb cars, please take your suggestions elsewhere.