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From what i notced about playing the game people do not use LAV's, Bradly's, and strykers correctly. Almost everyone, not all, use them to hunt and kill enemy from afar. The APC is designed to carry squads of men to the front line or near front line of combat. Not just drop off the men either, provide support fire for these guys and assist them in their task.

So, it turns out that APC actually stands for Anti People Cannon. Who knew? We've been wrong all along!

In all seriousness, though, this happens a lot. I don't think it's too much to ask for APC crews to at least pick up troops who request it or are obviously in need of transportation - like, when you're driving out of MEC Main on Muttrah, that squad hoofing down the road probably didn't hire a tour guide for South City...

really?

****, I have been using them wrong. Thanks for the information I will try and adapt

Well i rather kill enemys than wait till some tards try to get in trough the btr60 back... Usually people call for apcs, when you come, they dont need it no more or you have to wait 5min till they all gather around, then you get shot. Its not the apcs, its the infantry.

TuOuF wrote:Well i rather kill enemys than wait till some tards try to get in trough the btr60 back... Usually people call for apcs, when you come, they dont need it no more or you have to wait 5min till they all gather around, then you get shot. Its not the apcs, its the infantry.

Dude.. it's an Armoured Personnel Carrier... You're role is that of a transport.... if Heli pilots can manage it why not you?

The APC should work with 1 squad, giving suppressing fire and transporting them to the next target.

Herbiie i think he ment when people try to get in via the back of a BTR-60 when iirc you get in the side.

[R-COM]Cheditor wrote:Herbiie i think he ment when people try to get in via the back of a BTR-60 when iirc you get in the side.

He's blaming the Infantry for calling APCs to their position - when it shouldn't be up to the Infantry to ask the APCs to come and give them support - they should already be near by.

Helicopters are alot more vulnerable than APCs - yet they wait on the ground, sometimes under fire, for a squad to move up and in side, so here's a tip for APC Drivers: Go closer to the Infantry squad and you won't have to wait around, and stick with them while they are in contact rather than going in, letting them get out then pissing off - No you won't get shot if you stay still for too long, you have Infantry support.

There's supposed to be a difference between an APC transport and Heli transport - but because of APC crews thinking they are the ultimate power of the battle field there's virtually none - only that Heli transport is slightly safer.

i can see what herbii is saying, people in PR have a tendency to rambo out with the APC's like light armoured fighting vehicles, and tend to disregard the assault capability of a armed APC, they do circuits in them shooting up the enemy, and tend to forget about working closely with a infantry group to take objectives. the apc should be there to protect the infantry from snipers and light inf and the infantry should be there to protect the apc from anti-armor weapons. i just dont think we as a group spend enough time working on these basic inf tactics, and we dont communicate the idea's behind effective tactics like this very well with newer players. or even amongst ourselves.

Exterior wrote:From what i notced about playing the game people do not use LAV's, Bradly's, and strykers correctly. Almost everyone, not all, use them to hunt and kill enemy from afar. The APC is designed to carry squads of men to the front line or near front line of combat. Not just drop off the men either, provide support fire for these guys and assist them in their task.

Sounds awfully familiar:

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f10-pr ... rrier.html

Its totally true that generally APCs are acting like front line armoured predators rather than armoured personal carrier. I have to confess that sometimes I'm doing it too. But I will also blame everyone a bit for that. People generally accepting it like that. I'm generally accepting it like that. People support fighting APCs and even yelling at them if they are not actively in war. mostly no one getting angry and yelling when an alone APC got wasted in Docks at Muttrah. I doubt this can change easily :/

i think alot of it has to do with communication and cooperation between 6man inf sections
( and i am a firm believer that you need at least a 6man section to be a effective fighting element in PR) and the two man crews apc's ( i am really hoping we get a more versatile comms system in PR2) it really needs to be a closer working relationship.

NyteMyre wrote:Sounds awfully familiar:

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f10-pr ... rrier.html

It does sound familiar to that thread.

Like that threat, whenever I have an APC it's usually in a mechanised infantry squad.

1.) Driver
2.) Gunner
3.) Officer
4.) Medic
5.) Automatic Rifleman
6.) Light AT/Rifleman Specialist/Whatever other kit is required at the time

Works very well, clearing streets with an APC supporting you!

APC ain't no tank, holmes!

I think the best way to get people to use APCs correctly is to remove the gun on them, and perhaps give the gunner a camera so he can see around.


Failing that making the cannon rounds require a lase to hit the target would definitely work.

A little overkill Alex! Also, probably not realistic? =P

Heskey wrote:A little overkill Alex! Also, probably not realistic? =P

We know that, but thats not the point, its a gameplay gimmick for good.

Exterior wrote:From what i notced about playing the game people do not use LAV's, Bradly's, and strykers correctly. Almost everyone, not all, use them to hunt and kill enemy from afar. The APC is designed to carry squads of men to the front line or near front line of combat. Not just drop off the men either, provide support fire for these guys and assist them in their task.

I tried doing it properly once or twice but no one used it. I asked one of my online buddy's to try it out. Send one of the 2 apc's out hunting cause I didnt want the other 2 guys to have a boreing game. My APC waited in main and every now and than shouted out: Taxi ready for a squad in the team chat. But no one wanted to use it. I did 3/4 rides out of base to a position with a squad. Stayed for a minute or 2 when a squad got contacted and than went back to base.

I survived the entire round but didnt feel very usefull Was on Fallujah BTW

Alex6714 wrote:I think the best way to get people to use APCs correctly is to remove the gun on them, and perhaps give the gunner a camera so he can see around.


Failing that making the cannon rounds require a lase to hit the target would definitely work.

Hahahaha well played sir.

WEll what we do with APCs we first eliminate one of the treats - enemy apcs, then you look around for LATs/HATs. Getting into the apc doesnt take long does it? So ill better move rather than stay and wait till i get hit. If they call for apc they must be waiting for us not do what they did and when we come it takes ages while the full squad gets in, they sometimes even tell us to wait till one of their member spawns.

imo the apcs are most efficient in mecinf squads, where the inf can identify and eliminate dangerous target like H-ATs and recon hostile ambushs before the apc runs into it. Also, being able to communicate via VoIP and setting markers for both the apc and the inf, SLs can combine the advantages of the two elements easier, which is pretty hard to do, when the inf and the apc are split up in different squads.

You're always a joy alex even if you have a point

imo APCs are a bit too fragile to be used perfectly realistically, 1 RPG and its game over really, even with the 8wheeled apcs which you might have thought wouldn't get immobilised as easily.

but heres a good story of APCs supporting and then extracting infantry, I try to replicate this tactic as much as possible

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f112-p ... ok+british