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Humvee .50cal
Posted: 2010-01-09 03:09
by PowerPickle
I think that it might be a good idea if the ammo indicator was visible for the Humvee .50cal/or whatever other .50cals or mounted machine guns there are, but rounded to the nearest 20 rounds or so. In real life you would have a general idea of how many rounds you have left in the ammo can just by looking, but since in PR the rounds don't disappear you can't tell or might forget the general amount that you used. As an example, if you have 15 rounds it would say 20 & if you had 35 rounds it would say 40 ect.(I can usually tell, but maybe others can't sometimes so I'm just throwing this idea out there)
Re: Humvee .50cal
Posted: 2010-01-09 03:25
by mangeface
I'm not so sure about this. Most of the time when you're in a firefight, you're not worried about your ammo count when you have rounds flying past you. When you run out, you just take cover and reload. I do know from a few guys in the USMC infantry I talked to when I was on deployment with them that they like to put tracer rounds as the last few rounds in their magazines so that they know that they about to need to reload and prepare for it.
Re: Humvee .50cal
Posted: 2010-01-09 03:47
by mat552
Whatever your method, tracers or looking at the box, you do have an idea of how many rounds are left in real life. If you're in extended engagements or patrols in PR, the only way to know you're out is to keep an extremely attentive eye on how much you fire, or to hear the *click*
It would be nice to get a very general idea how many rounds are left.
Re: Humvee .50cal
Posted: 2010-01-09 03:48
by PowerPickle
darkside12 wrote:I'm not so sure about this. Most of the time when you're in a firefight, you're not worried about your ammo count when you have rounds flying past you. When you run out, you just take cover and reload. I do know from a few guys in the USMC infantry I talked to when I was on deployment with them that they like to put tracer rounds as the last few rounds in their magazines so that they know that they about to need to reload and prepare for it.
I guess, but once again, just throwing it out there & the tracers at the end of the mag sounds good to me.
Re: Humvee .50cal
Posted: 2010-01-09 03:55
by Hitman.2.5
i'll just ask you this, in RL do 50.'s have a digital display or any type of ammo counter? on a vehicle where it is mounted in some form of weapons station like the Stryker's RWS or on a CROWS mount you would have one.
Re: Humvee .50cal
Posted: 2010-01-09 03:55
by Nimise
PowerPickle wrote:I guess, but once again, just throwing it out there & the tracers at the end of the mag sounds good to me.
I personally wouldn't notice the difference between tracers every 2-4 rounds and tracers every round in PR....
Re: Humvee .50cal
Posted: 2010-01-09 04:00
by mangeface
Nimise wrote:I personally wouldn't notice the difference between tracers every 2-4 rounds and tracers every round in PR....
How we in the Marines load our magazines is actually important to people that play the game like me. I know that we only load 28 rounds in a magazine to reduce the chance of fully compressing the spring in the magazine itself and cause a jam due to magazine failure. How we load them is 3 tracer rounds first, then 25 ball rounds(<- your standard round) so that when we're firing and we start seeing tracers, we know the magazine is damn near empty. And even in the heat of a firefight you're going to see the tracers because they're firing in the direction that your looking and they're very bright, even during the day.
Re: Humvee .50cal
Posted: 2010-01-09 04:03
by mangeface
Hitman.2.5 wrote:i'll just ask you this, in RL do 50.'s have a digital display or any type of ammo counter? on a vehicle where it is mounted in some form of weapons station like the Stryker's RWS or on a CROWS mount you would have one.
No, they don't. You have the gun, and you can mount lights and scopes to them, but they are no ammo counters that I know of due to the fact that you can have x amount of rounds linked together, and you'd have to input that into the counter. In a firefight, I'm not wasting that valuable time to put in a number so I can keep track of rounds. The only thing I can see PR doing is you being able to see into the ammo can and SWAG(Scientific Wild *** Guess) how many rounds are left.
Re: Humvee .50cal
Posted: 2010-01-09 04:18
by ankyle62
Hitman.2.5 wrote:i'll just ask you this, in RL do 50.'s have a digital display or any type of ammo counter? on a vehicle where it is mounted in some form of weapons station like the Stryker's RWS or on a CROWS mount you would have one.
in PR you cant look at your ammo can when jumping in the humvee to look. i make it a habit just to reload whenever i jump into a humvee.
Re: Humvee .50cal
Posted: 2010-01-09 04:21
by Howitzer
darkside12 wrote:How we in the Marines load our magazines is actually important to people that play the game like me. I know that we only load 28 rounds in a magazine to reduce the chance of fully compressing the spring in the magazine itself and cause a jam due to magazine failure. How we load them is 3 tracer rounds first, then 25 ball rounds(<- your standard round) so that when we're firing and we start seeing tracers, we know the magazine is damn near empty. And even in the heat of a firefight you're going to see the tracers because they're firing in the direction that your looking and they're very bright, even during the day.
You realise how pointless all this is looking at the OP ?
Re: Humvee .50cal
Posted: 2010-01-09 04:49
by Jordanb716
Personally I would like to see something that tells you ammo remaining in terms of quarters of a full load. not specific numbers but just a feel for how much is left.
Re: Humvee .50cal
Posted: 2010-01-09 04:51
by mangeface
Howitzer wrote:You realise how pointless all this is looking at the OP ?
It doesn't matter how pointless it is. PowerPickle wanted to know if there was an ammo counter for weapons. This is a way to know when you are getting low on rounds in your magazine, and it's very effective. I'm surprised none of the military advisers haven't metioned this technique for the game.
Re: Humvee .50cal
Posted: 2010-01-09 05:03
by Eddie Baker
This is a resuggestion from not too long ago.
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr ... cator.html
It's not a very common re-suggestion, though, and I believe it has merit for the machine-guns that feed from open-topped boxes.
As to the Stryker RWS and almost identical M153 CROWS, as far as I know they do not have indicators for every shot, just a low ammo indicator that comes on when ammo drops below a certain level; based on weight, I would guess.
Tracers at the end of the magazine has been suggested before, both here and on DEV forums, but I don't remember why it hasn't been implemented thus far.
Re: Humvee .50cal
Posted: 2010-01-09 05:07
by mangeface
[R-DEV]Eddie Baker wrote:Tracers at the end of the magazine has been suggested before, both here and on DEV forums, but I don't remember why it hasn't been implemented thus far.
You should get them in there. I do know this is Project
Reality. And that's how we load magazines in real life.
Re: Humvee .50cal
Posted: 2010-01-09 05:25
by Jordanb716
I could be wrong but I think I remember reading that the BF2 engine is hardcoded on the tracers as far as putting them in specific places in the clip and you can only adjust the ratio of tracers to ball. Again I could be wrong.
Re: Humvee .50cal
Posted: 2010-01-09 05:33
by Tirak
darkside12 wrote:You should get them in there. I do know this is Project Reality. And that's how we load magazines in real life.
If I recall correctly, it's because tracers using the BF2 engine don't work that way. You set the tracer frequency, but you can't have them fire when you're down to your last three rounds.
EDIT: Totally missed Jordan's post, but yeah
Side Note: People, stop saying "Well this is Project
REALITY (ZOMGROFLPWNBBQ)", at the end of the day there are limitations to the BF2 engine and things the Devs have decided for gameplay. Get over it, it does not improve your chances of people agreeing with you.
Re: Humvee .50cal
Posted: 2010-01-09 06:38
by mangeface
Tirak;1229124Side Note: People, stop saying "Well this is Project [b wrote:REALITY (ZOMGROFLPWNBBQ)[/b]", at the end of the day there are limitations to the BF2 engine and things the Devs have decided for gameplay. Get over it, it does not improve your chances of people agreeing with you.
I understand that there a limitations, and I appreciate what they do for the game. But as someone that deals with the shit that they are trying to reproduce everyday, it's aggrivating to see little things missed or fouled up, especially on something that I see is great in detail and one little thing may have messed it all up (i.e. buy ArmA 2 and see how jacked up the MV-22 is with it's sounds).
Re: Humvee .50cal
Posted: 2010-01-09 06:52
by -Sauso-
You should know how many rounds are left without visuals

Re: Humvee .50cal
Posted: 2010-01-09 07:29
by mangeface
-Sauso- wrote:You should know how many rounds are left without visuals
What do you expect me to do while I'm playing, count my shots so I know? I've got better things to think about while in a firefight, like worrying about reinforcements, counterattacks and the likes.
Re: Humvee .50cal
Posted: 2010-01-09 07:59
by bloodthirsty_viking
would it be possible for it to have- like an overheat bar- but instead of it showing overheat, it shows how many bullets are left? that way its no number, but it is an approx ammount of how much is in the can.