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AR kit becoming over-popular during game play
Posted: 2010-02-06 05:51
by bad_nade
This new system where dropped kits stay on the ground for five minutes slowly leads to situation where some kits, especially automatic rifleman, will become over-popular among players. Spawn system replicates a new AR kit into game world every time requested by legit squad member, regardless of if his previous kit was still in the existence or not. In previous version this wasn't as much an issue because dropped kits disappeared after 30 secs, but now they should be limited in number to prevent SAW-only squads - friend or foe - wondering around the map.
Re: AR kit becoming over-popular during game play
Posted: 2010-02-06 05:54
by Phantom2
AR kit is a little overkill now I believe. On Operation Barracuda, I was able to drive away 2 favs smoking and their gunners killed with one mag of M246 fire.
Re: AR kit becoming over-popular during game play
Posted: 2010-02-06 06:05
by mosinmatt
clueless_noob wrote:This new system where dropped kits stay on the ground for five minutes slowly leads to situation where some kits, especially automatic rifleman, will become over-popular among players. Spawn system replicates a new AR kit into game world every time requested by legit squad member, regardless of if his previous kit was still in the existence or not. In previous version this wasn't as much an issue because dropped kits disappeared after 30 secs, but now they should be limited in number to prevent SAW-only squads - friend or foe - wondering around the map.
I have not noticed anymore ARs than normal actually.
The SAW has been overly popular since they put a scope on it. It is basically used as a Full auto sniper rifle. See, since the kits stay on the ground, but they do not have a picture on them, you kind of dont know what is what anymore.
Off topic. Clueless noob, you play on hardcore, right? I think it was you that was in the tank I jumped on as a civilian, hehe. That was kinda funny. My squad mate was actually putting an arty IED right next to you, but it glitched =/
Re: AR kit becoming over-popular during game play
Posted: 2010-02-06 09:02
by anglomanii
well the reality is a AR makes modern battlefields very dangerous, i can see your point though, but if your team is giving up those AR's to the enemy then thats, a tactical issue. other team mates picking up AR kits, well, that has a lot more with team member's being responsible players and playing the roles they have in the team.
Re: AR kit becoming over-popular during game play
Posted: 2010-02-06 10:29
by Cheditor
Well i like the new AR scope/unscope system it drastically reduces effectivness of the AR now you can either be meh at long rage and good in closer or excellent at long and then meh at close.
The thing is though a large squad with just SAWs will really be at the disadvantage, you have alot of ammo fair enough but after a few scrims your pretty much depleted so the rifleman is needed, specialist will be needed on any urban map otherwise a squad with a specialist just outflank you, AT if an apc comes round corner on your 5 saw wielding squad, well i think it's self explanitory there what happens.
Re: AR kit becoming over-popular during game play
Posted: 2010-02-06 10:53
by Nebsif
I didnt notice ARs being over popular, they have more recoil now, while assault rifles feel just right (more accurate than 087)
Re: AR kit becoming over-popular during game play
Posted: 2010-02-06 10:54
by Herbiie
I have noticed this, but I've also noticed that at long range they aren't as effective due to the epic amounts of recoil.
Anglo - on the modern battlefield's it's the .50 calibre machine guns, GPMGs, jets, attack helicopters, and armoured vehicles that make the battle field dangerous - not the (pretty crappy in comparison) M249, PKM, or w.e

Re: AR kit becoming over-popular during game play
Posted: 2010-02-06 11:02
by Feriluce
I think the british and IDF marksman kits are gonna become nearly as popular. They're like mini AR's, and insanely accurate (even on auto) when deployed.
Re: AR kit becoming over-popular during game play
Posted: 2010-02-06 11:05
by Herbiie
Feriluce wrote:I think the british and IDF marksman kits are gonna become nearly as popular. They're like mini AR's, and insanely accurate (even on auto) when deployed.
well that's not right for The British - seeing as the LSW is the biggest piece of **** in existence

Re: AR kit becoming over-popular during game play
Posted: 2010-02-06 11:11
by Feriluce
Herbiie wrote:well that's not right for The British - seeing as the LSW is the biggest piece of **** in existence
Did you try it after the update and in deployed mode?
Re: AR kit becoming over-popular during game play
Posted: 2010-02-06 11:13
by Herbiie
Feriluce wrote:Did you try it after the update and in deployed mode?
I meant In real life
It's just the L85A2 with a longer barrel increasing the range to 1000m rather than 400m

(they're being phased out and are hardly ever used, the L129A1 and Minimi are more commonplace)
Re: AR kit becoming over-popular during game play
Posted: 2010-02-06 11:14
by Tahanatos
guys this is PROJECT REALITY and think about it doesnt that mean that a LMG should be as powerful as it is in reality?
When a Squad moves the LMG covers the whole SQ and after that the WHOLE SQ covers the LMG when it moves.
One LMG has the firepower of at least the rest of the Squad, but it takes a while to get it into position and I think what we got now wtih the LMG in terms of power and getting into position is very good in terms of reality.
If u dont believe me dat least believe the words of my sergeant: "When the MG speaks everything else falls silent"
Re: AR kit becoming over-popular during game play
Posted: 2010-02-06 11:23
by mangeface
I've found that the Sniper and Marksman kits are way more over used than the AR kit. I was trying to test out all the kits while playing and did, except for the first 2 mentioned because almost EVERYONE had them. And they would die and run back for them. It's really ridiculous.
Re: AR kit becoming over-popular during game play
Posted: 2010-02-06 12:33
by killonsight95
the kits staying alice for 5 mins is way to long maybe 2-3 mins would be more approprate
Re: AR kit becoming over-popular during game play
Posted: 2010-02-06 13:40
by Snazz
Popular perhaps, but now require 2 more squad members to request and have increased recoil.
Being left on the ground longer definitely has an effect on the chances of picking one up, but you could come across any kit not just AR.
Re: AR kit becoming over-popular during game play
Posted: 2010-02-06 13:41
by bad_nade
darkside12 wrote:I've found that the Sniper and Marksman kits are way more over used than the AR kit. I was trying to test out all the kits while playing and did, except for the first 2 mentioned because almost EVERYONE had them. And they would die and run back for them. It's really ridiculous.
Can't have more than 2 snipers and 3 marksmen per team on a full server. AR, on the other hand, is not limited in number.
Re: AR kit becoming over-popular during game play
Posted: 2010-02-06 14:00
by Snazz
Maybe there needs to be a team limit of 8 AR kits.
Re: AR kit becoming over-popular during game play
Posted: 2010-02-06 14:25
by bbrother92
AR is cheat
Re: AR kit becoming over-popular during game play
Posted: 2010-02-06 14:33
by Feriluce
bbrother92 wrote:AR is cheat
I'm sure it is and, like the cheat, it is not dead.