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Automatic rifle
Posted: 2010-02-11 12:09
by HAAN4
Since i will like to up a poll that exteand the discusion of AR kits,
i has ever defended the policy of balace, about those AR kits, and i admit that i have not much sucess trough now.
tough the firepower of AR kits Has fine in 0.874. it exteand to much in 0.909.
when the removed the Undeployed sistem, and the deployend one, works 100x better. in all ways.
tough the sugestion is close, this is not a discusion that sugest something, but A pool, that will like to make so.
1) I think AR kits are not overpower, though they are in Real life, Increnatible firepower and Acuracy
2)I thick AR kits have the right fire power, but the wrong mobility,
3) i thick the Recoil of AR kits are by the way to small for a Stand up shooting.
4)I thick AR kits shown never by added to Rally points, troung the ideal of Heavy Weopows can only be optainend on Cache has be a great ideia on early pacthes.
5)I thick it have to less weakness, since in close quarters it is amazing, in long range you can pick off a sniper, and in ambush you can kill a intery squad, since it do moderated Treat to light Vehicles 2!.
6) sorry man, i am a AR fan, so, i will not what my favority TOY picket off my favority game.
Re: Automatic rifle
Posted: 2010-02-11 12:17
by rampo
Uhm... what do you even want to vote for in a poll?...
Re: Automatic rifle
Posted: 2010-02-11 12:37
by Mad-Mike
Why cant people be thankful of this great mod and do less moaning
I do understand its just a suggestion but come on guys, its a brilliant mod and its free.
Give the Dev's a break.
Re: Automatic rifle
Posted: 2010-02-11 12:40
by Bonsai
...what mike said.
Re: Automatic rifle
Posted: 2010-02-11 13:09
by Flynn1982
I am happy with how they are atm.
Re: Automatic rifle
Posted: 2010-02-11 13:50
by Skull
Flynn1982 wrote:I am happy with how they are atm.
agreed. especially the iron sights are pretty awesome now. then only thing i would change is the settle time, increase a bit
Re: Automatic rifle
Posted: 2010-02-11 13:57
by dtacs
Mad-Mike wrote:Why cant people be thankful of this great mod and do less moaning
I do understand its just a suggestion but come on guys, its a brilliant mod and its free.
Give the Dev's a break.
Thats like getting a free lunch with everything you're allergic too as the main ingredient, and then getting told off when you comment on it.
Hes free to talk about this, if the developers don't want to read it they don't have to, if they won't listen to peoples suggestions and complaints and whatnot then thats fine, they can read his complaint and shrug it of, or reply and tell him why hes wrong.
The latter would solve many more problems that the mod already faces.
Re: Automatic rifle
Posted: 2010-02-11 13:59
by Rudd
3) i thick the Recoil of AR kits are by the way to small for a Stand up shooting.
I think this is covered well with the deviation
the current deviation kinda says to me "fire constantly, and get less accurate but youll still supress the target" "fire in bursts for awesomeness accuracy"
which is pretty realistic imo, so the recoil is fine for me.
And everyone, be nice to eachother. the OP has given a reasonable discussion unless the MODs believe it has strayed in to suggestionland too much.
Treat eachother with respect, talk about the subject, not the thread itself.
If the DEVs see no virtue in a discussion or suggestion, they will disregard it, but there are still golden nuggets of suggestion coming out occasionally so lets not encourage them to be silent, but to participate in discussions.
Re: Automatic rifle
Posted: 2010-02-11 14:12
by Masaq
Maybe it's because I'm half asleep but I don't even get what it is that the OP particularly wants...
Re: Automatic rifle
Posted: 2010-02-11 14:18
by dtacs
[R-DEV]Masaq wrote:Maybe it's because I'm half asleep but I don't even get what it is that the OP particularly wants...
tough the firepower of AR kits Has fine in 0.874. it exteand to much in 0.909.
Transforms to...
I believe that the power of the AR kits was adequate in 874, however in 09 it is too powerful and imbalanced
So yeah, this IS a suggestion pretty much.
Re: Automatic rifle
Posted: 2010-02-11 14:40
by KasperX
I think the AR kit is fine as it is. Use suppressing/cover fire with one or two SM's to occupy his attention and have the rest of the squad flank around him. If you go head-to-head against an AR, you deserve to get filled with lead. Sometimes in large open areas the deployed AR kit has a HUGE advantage with firepower and deviation/accuracy, but that's just the way it goes. I used to think that the AR kit was a little overpowered...until more ppl started adapting successful strategies against it.
The AR kit offers a new dynamic obstacle on the battlefield that I think adds to the whole chaotic experience of war. The balance is perfect imho, just use your squad.
Kasp

Re: Automatic rifle
Posted: 2010-02-11 14:59
by Drunkenup
Suggestion in disguise?
I think the AR is perfect now, is balanced all around in my opinion. Even if it does have too much or too little recoil undeployed, its still not that accurate up to ranges of about 50 meters.
Re: Automatic rifle
Posted: 2010-02-11 16:59
by chris_stoiva_ganjais
How do you change to scope or not on AR ?
Re: Automatic rifle
Posted: 2010-02-11 17:12
by gazzthompson
chris_stoiva_ganjais wrote:How do you change to scope or not on AR ?
when requesting: left click scope, right click irons.
Re: Automatic rifle
Posted: 2010-02-11 17:45
by ANDROMEDA
I am very glad that the developers have done in 0.909 the LMG like support of infantry and suppress the enemy, and not a sniper rifle, as in 0.874. And new deploy sistem is great and realistic. Thanks.
Re: Automatic rifle
Posted: 2010-02-11 17:50
by victor_phx
Weapons are fine.
It sort of annoys me when I'm playing and someone from my squad starts whining about, say, "how different - or worse - the rifles are". Why don't these guys save the time they spend complaining and use it to LEARN how to play? To get some skills? The gameplay relies on ability developed by the player. Don't blame the game; blame yourself.