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Well we are having this discussion on the RT forums, so... Could we please have a public discussion on naming your squads ANTI-JEW and LOLJEW. I personally don't appreciate seeing that kind of behavior, I'm not a Jew, but it can be offensive to some Jews. If your interested here is the original discussion: Bad Behavior on RT servers: Religion - Reality Teamwork What does the rest of the PR community think about this?

I'm afraid this falls to the administrators

racist names existed before .9, and will continue to exist until admins kick offenders

like rudd said, its up to the admins, I don't think its very easy to mess with the squad system, and doing so just to add a wordfilter is a) a lot of work and b) kinda stupid

if you have a problem with it, write to the admins on that server. Most clans/communities will usually intervene and either warn or kick the person doing it if it gets out of hand

also, im sure if people get offended by this, admins will notice. I've seen NoKraut squads and I never really cared.

I dont join such squads. Has nothing to do with IDF or hamas especially but generally squad names that are questionable.
The two examples, well I am not sure if they are too offensive, I would not join them anyway even they are meant to be funny - I just dont like that kind of "jokes" or whatever is behind that.
I think it is too much of roleplaying or whatever it is with this kind of stuff.

If I were the server admin I would not allow offensive squad names though...
I mean if you can kick "noobs" that solo vehicles you can also kick people like that.

I mean is it really necessary to shout "allah" or create such squad names? It is just a game but all this real factions attract some strange people.

I can just say that I dont like such squad names and or roleplaying like I mentioned above.

Fighter wrote:Well we are having this discussion on the RT forums, so... Could we please have a public discussion on naming your squads ANTI-JEW and LOLJEW. I personally don't appreciate seeing that kind of behavior, I'm not a Jew, but it can be offensive to some Jews. If your interested here is the original discussion: Bad Behavior on RT servers: Religion - Reality Teamwork What does the rest of the PR community think about this?

Whats wrong with calling your squad "LOLJEW"? Who gives a ****. It's not offensive since there is no "jew hate" in the name. If your offended by that, it is IMO your own problem.

Personally, I don't like it and i wouldn't name my squad that. It shows immaturity but then again, I enjoy watching South Park and Family Guy. I know a Jew that finds South park funny. Most people, regardless of religion or race, have a sense of humor.

It's just a shame that Jews seem to be the ones that fall foul of most jokes that're aimed at people of another religion.

The only reason I'd say kick or ban people with squad named as such would be if 1 person of said race or religion alone was offended by it.

Would I be offended if I saw a squad called 'LOLBRITS' or 'ANTI-ATHEIST'? No I wouldn't.

Sgt.Smeg wrote:Personally, I don't like it and i wouldn't name my squad that. It shows immaturity but then again, I enjoy watching South Park and Family Guy. I know a Jew that finds South park funny. Most people, regardless of religion or race, have a sense of humor.

It's just a shame that Jews seem to be the ones that fall foul of most jokes that're aimed at people of another religion.

The only reason I'd say kick or ban people with squad named as such would be if 1 person of said race or religion alone was offended by it.

Would I be offended if I saw a squad called 'LOLBRITS' or 'ANTI-ATHEIST'? No I wouldn't.

My point..

I would say the religion that's being offended is irrelevant. Kick the guys that open up such squads. Only the action of creating a squad with such a name is an incontrovertible proof of the players lack of marturity. Personally I also don't like the "Allah" squads since they are also an offence for most of the muslims out there.

In my opinion you shouldn't be offensive against anyone and you should keep it a game. To bad plenty of players (which are mostly german) run around with names of the Nazi era and make fun of something that really isn't funny and will never be. (Just to mention: I also think that the era of general guilt for the germans is over! Just before some other germans pop up and critize me for being to guiltily.) There should be borders and the people should accept them. Who can't accept some general rules and thinks it is cool to behave like a 6-year-old without any social skills should be removed from the public until he or she knows how to act like a member of todays multicultural public properly.

Brits isn't a religion. Atheist's are atheists.

I find it immature like I said in my last post on the RT discussion.

My opinion is squad names should be limited to Infantry(Winfantry, Failfantry, etc... NOT JEWFANTRY, etc...) and asset squads.

Some people call it roleplaying, there seems to be a thin line on roleplaying/offending with .9

people are offended by those names? really?

I guess we should just remove the hamas faction, as they are anti-isreal, and therefore antisemitic.

calling your hamas squad anti-jew is considered roleplaying now?
dunno mate, like I said, seen NoKrauts squads made by non germans on a german server, but it never really bothered me. I think if i was jewish i wouldn't be all that bothered by those names either.

As I said, its up to the administrators, if you don't like how they administrate their servers you play elsewhere.

Personally, if I was an admin of the server in question I'd warn the player to rename the squad, if they didn't comply I'd kick them, repeat offenders getting the banhammer, its just unecessary to have such a name.

in the question of ambiguous names like "LOLJEW", its really up to the sense of humour of the host server, if they deem it non-politically correct and have a policy regarding that, you will abide by their policy, leave or be helped to leave.

There is no clear solution to it all.

So I'd say: Leave it be, do not sparkle any discussion or make any rules about it, because all you're doing is provoking the avalanche. So therefore, leave it be, it is their fault they can't get straight with their pea-sized brains. But if they start to openly insult the jews, then you should act. I mean, I drop a joke-two on jews here and there, but admins won't go postal for that.

It's all about how much does that issue go far.

Really I dont understand whats so big about this those being offended by such names as loljew should get their head examined, because no one would take offense by: lolnazi, lolbritish, lolcommunist, lolPLA, lolUS, lolmuslim I personally think the racist and all teh other words describing bad things about others because of religion and race these words are in many cases overused and the word has no real value anymore since as fast as a guy that are not "white dudes" get a bad joke after them the word racist is yelled. While someone making fun of "white dudes" is never racist even if you use the same joke and just change the word from black to white.

White dudes is just a generalizing of most of the europeans and americans.

Fighter wrote:Brits isn't a religion. Atheist's are atheists.

I find it immature like I said in my last post on the RT discussion.

My opinion is squad names should be limited to Infantry(Winfantry, Failfantry, etc... NOT JEWFANTRY, etc...) and asset squads.

Some people call it roleplaying, there seems to be a thin line on roleplaying/offending with .9

Lol, why does it matter if it's a religion or someone's nationality?

Also has ANY one actually been offended by them?

Don't assume people will be offended, when someone is offended it's time for discussion - until then what's the point? it's not hurting anyone. imho If I was Jewish I'd find more offence in being told I'm going to be offended than in a squad name.

This all falls under the realm of what server admins want to do with their servers.

That being said I agree with Smeg, naming squads this way is tactless, rude, and immature. However hopefully the mature community members will fix this problem by just not joining squads that have racist or anti-semitic names. Then people will stop creating them.

The LOLanywhat squads aren't the problem. The problem are the "Antijew" or something like that squads. These can be considered offensive and I would say there is no need to offend someone just for the fun of it. Just give your squad a name that's not offensive and maybe it's even helping out (Since it's helping a new guy when he comes on a server and looks for a squad, when the squads are called "Mec Inf", "Tac Inf", "Inf VoIP", "TOW", "Tank", "APC" and so on, more than some squads called "Lolshit", "blabla", "Allah", "Funnystuff" and some more with one serious squad which has already 6/6 players.) so everyone feels fine.

Jews call themselves jews so why is it offensive if someone else says it...? same goes for the "N" word.

[R-CON]Rudd wrote: Personally, if I was an admin of the server in question I'd warn the player to rename the squad, if they didn't comply I'd kick them, repeat offenders getting the banhammer, its just unecessary to have such a name.

Which is exactly the policy on the RT server. I agree with others that theres nothing particularly offencive about those names imo, but if they do offend other people, then it breaks the rules on RT.

When ever I see it happen, they are asked to rename the squad, and keep religion off the server. They are warned once, and I have a good memory, so if it happens again they know what will happen.

crAck_sh0t wrote:Jews call themselves jews so why is it offensive if someone else says it...? same goes for the "N" word.

No it doesn't, "jew" only sounds offensive when you put into negative context, wheres the N word doesn't have a friggin positive context.