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[Weapon] M320 grenade Launcher system
Posted: 2010-03-16 02:42
by Redamare
The New upcoming replacment of the M203 is said to be of the M320 grenade launcher.
As seen in the information video the US army is already issuing the grenade laucher to paratrooper rangers in the field.
with new laser sights to assist aiming. the m320 would be a perfect match to one of PRs new development projects of the assisted aiming grenade launcher. Through the use of the laser sights / (Small reflex sights) it the video below shows how the concept would work a bit more and and hand with the new weapon.
PR FORUM ( Functional GL Sights )
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https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f10-pr ... ights.html)
There isnt any REAL advantage of this except it could be used with USA paratroopers as of now untill the weapon becomes more mainstream. I was reading somewhere that the Canadian forces may adopt the new weapon also. Food for Thought.
M320 intro video
YouTube - New M320 Grenade Launcher
Wikipedia M320 Information
M320 grenade launcher - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Re: [Weapon] M320 grenade Launcher system
Posted: 2010-03-16 03:40
by Rabbit
No offense but just because its there doesn't mean we need to have to, all it really is is heavier and more accurate. For example, PR still uses the leaf sight, when the day/night sight is what a lot of units get handed out. Point being, its there, but it would make such a small pointless change, why bother.
Re: [Weapon] M320 grenade Launcher system
Posted: 2010-03-16 08:12
by Maxfragg
no change in gameplay, and it would basicly just mean, that all nato factions would use a version of the HK AG36
Re: [Weapon] M320 grenade Launcher system
Posted: 2010-03-16 08:22
by motherdear
well if it gets replaced with this later then it might be worth using and if ALL paratroopers use it it would be very interesting on maps like silent eagle. so far not really worth it, but who knows. somebody might do a bit more research and decide to model/uvw/texture it.
it is worth noting though that laser range finders are a bit weird in regards to the hud in BF2 though so might look crappy and then not worth it.
but at least this is a valid "future" weapon suggestion that isn't totally fubar like most.
one thing is sure though, the dev team won't be making it for a while.
Re: [Weapon] M320 grenade Launcher system
Posted: 2010-03-16 10:21
by hartbilt
U.S. Army Program Executive Office PEO
"M320 Grenade Launcher (GL)
Mission
Enables the Soldier to accurately engage the enemy in daylight or total darkness with a safer, more reliable grenade launcher that reduces aiming error and increases first-round hit probability.
The M320 Grenade Launcher (GL) is a 40mm low-velocity grenade launcher weapon module that will replace all Army M203 series grenade launchers. The M320 GL improves on the current system with an integral day/night sighting system that provides day/night targeting capability, an open architecture that allows mounting on M16/M4 rifles and carbines, and the ability to convert to a standalone system, enabling an increase in modularity. The M320 GL has a side-loading unrestricted breech that allows the system to fire longer 40mm low-velocity projectiles (NATO standard and non-standard) and is more reliable and safer because it uses a more modern double-action trigger/firing system. A handheld laser rangefinder eliminates range estimation, greatly increasing the first-round hit probability of the grenadier.
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Spec sheet
https://peosoldier.army.mil/Factsheets/ ... W_M320.pdf
Army Times 2008
"The Army plans to begin fielding the first of 71,600 new replacement launchers in February for a cost of about $3,500 each, Audette said. Fielding of the M320 will likely be completed by 2015, Audette said. Each M320 will come with a laser range finder and a sophisticated sight that even lets soldiers know if they aren’t holding the launcher right."
82nd receives 1st batch of M320s
82nd receives 1st batch of M320s - Army News, news from Iraq, - Army Times
Army to field new grenade launcher
By Matthew Cox - Staff writer
Posted : Thursday Nov 20, 2008 15:31:24 EST
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/11/a ... e_112008w/
https://acquisition.army.mil/asfi/justi ... ENSION=pdf
Re: [Weapon] M320 grenade Launcher system
Posted: 2010-03-16 11:41
by anglomanii
[R-DEV]motherdear wrote:well if it gets replaced with this later then it might be worth using and if ALL paratroopers use it it would be very interesting on maps like silent eagle. so far not really worth it, but who knows. somebody might do a bit more research and decide to model/uvw/texture it.
it is worth noting though that laser range finders are a bit weird in regards to the hud in BF2 though so might look crappy and then not worth it.
but at least this is a valid "future" weapon suggestion that isn't totally fubar like most.
one thing is sure though, the dev team won't be making it for a while.
it might be preemptive to at least have this one in the pipeline, now i don't know about other factions but if as has been stated previously that "PR" takes place in the 2012-2014 time frame, it would be, lets just say convenient if a m320 model was perhaps available
when or if the F88sa3 was to be introduced into a future incarnation of the ADF comfac, now dont quote me or say "are you saying........" because i can neither confirm or deny any such suspicions as to what was in the IACR paper, but if the proposal could be accepted that the possibility of certain antipodean comfacs would be best served if such a model was made available so as to coincide with the "possible" introduction of it's RL counterpart, you could say the work was not for nothing.

Re: [Weapon] M320 grenade Launcher system
Posted: 2010-03-16 18:36
by Redamare
Good reasearch guys ;D lol .... yea i wasnt expecting an emediate Jump on creating the new system for paratroopers just somthing to think about for the future when it becomes more mainstream
Re: [Weapon] M320 grenade Launcher system
Posted: 2010-03-16 21:26
by Solid Knight
Anyone used one? The increase in profile size seems undesirable. The M320 is huge compared to the M203.
Re: [Weapon] M320 grenade Launcher system
Posted: 2010-03-16 22:23
by Cheditor
Why in the picture is there a foregrip added? Can't you just use the Launcher's grip?
Re: [Weapon] M320 grenade Launcher system
Posted: 2010-03-16 23:02
by Eddie Baker
Cheditor wrote:Why in the picture is there a foregrip added? Can't you just use the Launcher's grip?
There is no added foregrip to the weapons in the attached photo. That
is the launcher's grip.
Re: [Weapon] M320 grenade Launcher system
Posted: 2010-03-16 23:06
by DeltaFart
Oh he means the little flip down grip I think that you can make it into a GL rather than UGL
Re: [Weapon] M320 grenade Launcher system
Posted: 2010-03-16 23:09
by Hunt3r
I'd be in favor of a less obstructive sight for the UGLs, but I don't think that will happen..
Re: [Weapon] M320 grenade Launcher system
Posted: 2010-03-16 23:25
by hartbilt
Solid Knight wrote:Anyone used one? The increase in profile size seems undesirable. The M320 is huge compared to the M203.
I've had the opportunity to handle both stand-alone and M4 mounted M320 briefly @ Atterbury and Knob Creek, Ky. IMO, it is extremely cumbersome and awkward when mounted on the M4, but where is really earns it pay, is as a stand-alone GL (Enter the new "Thumper":lol

. As far as weight goes the m320 is slightly heaver, the M320's grip is located in a good position and balances M4 carbine quite well during reloads, The side-open breech is more user friendly and harder to make mistakes while loading-and it is convenient to get a clear view of breech during reload, IMHO the M203 follows the K.I.S.S. design doctrine and there was no real need to phase it out with a new model. At a cost of $3500 a pop for the M320(not sure if that includes sighting system either), It would have been much more cost effective to just develop a new sighting system/trigger-safety package for the M203.
That being said, the real incentive of the project was to equip combat units with a module GL package, easily converted to stand-alone GL.
The unit is much more viable as a stand-alone GL, the M320 takes "compact-GLs" to a whole new level. Spec-ops, most notably SEALs, still continue to utilize the M79 Grenade launcher to this day, and with great effect. The ability to maintain a "low-drag" carbines along with GL's is of great importance in Urban environments, which is why you still see Spec. ops. in Iraq w/ M79s.
I believe we will see the M320 fielded more often in it's stand-alone config.
I think the America's Army 3 game replaced M203 w/ M320s over a year ago
Heckler & Koch AG36 / AG-C / EGLM / XM320 / M320
M79 in Iraq
Re: [Weapon] M320 grenade Launcher system
Posted: 2010-03-16 23:26
by Hitman.2.5
doesnt the M320 have a min range of 25m?
Re: [Weapon] M320 grenade Launcher system
Posted: 2010-03-16 23:29
by hartbilt
Hunt3r wrote:I'd be in favor of a less obstructive sight for the UGLs, but I don't think that will happen..
In the Game? or for real steel systems?
Re: [Weapon] M320 grenade Launcher system
Posted: 2010-03-16 23:32
by hartbilt
Hitman.2.5 wrote:doesnt the M320 have a min range of 25m?
Min. safe distance depends on the cartridges being fired, not the GL.
Re: [Weapon] M320 grenade Launcher system
Posted: 2010-03-17 05:00
by Rabbit
In all honesty I have to say the m320 is a bad idea. The m203 with day/night sight was already heavy and messes up your accuracy while firing due to all that extra weight being to one side no to mention infront with your barrel and m203. In a time when soldiers what less load they give more, now they want people to carry a heavier system with the day/night sight and laser, no thank you.
Re: [Weapon] M320 grenade Launcher system
Posted: 2010-03-17 06:31
by SGT.Ice
hartbilt wrote: I think the America's Army 3 game replaced M203 w/ M320s over a year ago
Heckler & Koch AG36 / AG-C / EGLM / XM320 / M320
M79 in Iraq
Indeed Americas Army did, and I hate the M320 :/
Re: [Weapon] M320 grenade Launcher system
Posted: 2010-03-17 15:32
by DeltaFart
Whats wrong iwth the M320? It seems like a good step in the right direction granted its not all that KISS but honestly you cant blame them for trying to make it more effective than it currently is