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I was watching some videos on youtube about the stryker, that someone posted in another suggestion. And I noticed something I wish we had in project reality.

In a real Stryker team there is a driver, vehicle commander(who is also the gunner), a squad leader who coordinates everything and finally the position I would like added to PR, the rifle team leader. He sits at the back of the vehicle, and provides rear sentry guard when the hatch is open, but also has a monitor where he can see whats happening outside and get eyes on the target before the infantry team dismounts.

The rifle team leader part is at about 0:20.


It appears to me that he has a camera to control, but it could be a feed from the main camera. Either way, it would be nice if we could include this in PR in the form of a modified seat in all or most APCs. Either giving them a camera attached to the turret, or giving them a free look camera of their own.

This would allow the infantry squad leader inside to have a clear picture of whats happening outside the armor. And it could allow the SL of the infantry squad to get eyes on and even place a marker if needed, before exiting the vehicle.

It would also help with dedicated mechanized infantry squads, the squad leader would be able to observe and direct the infantry or even the APC, without having to exit the vehicle and expose himself. While still leaving the jobs of driver and gunner to squad members.

The SL seat should be in position 8 so people aren't constantly getting into it. This would allow the SL to jump in and hit F8. The position would not require any special kit, to allow normal soldiers to use the seat if needed.

+1 This all sounds like a good and thoroughly worked through idea. It would be a good addition to gameplay, and i dont see any reasons why it shouldnt/couldnt be added.

Sounds cool.

+1

only thing i see is i think the driver has more(NOT SURE- DONT QUOTE ME) visibility as they do in real life
So it seems to me that to look out the back- sit in the back seat- and the driver still has full visibility- allong with the gunner.

also- you would this be limited to squad leaders, becuase if it is- then would that not just then lower the ammount of seats you can have in an apc?

Thats just my thoughts though.

bloodthirsty_viking wrote:only thing i see is i think the driver has more(NOT SURE- DONT QUOTE ME) visibility as they do in real life
So it seems to me that to look out the back- sit in the back seat- and the driver still has full visibility- allong with the gunner.

also- you would this be limited to squad leaders, becuase if it is- then would that not just then lower the ammount of seats you can have in an apc?

Thats just my thoughts though.

The position would not require any special kit, to allow normal soldiers to use the seat if needed.

Yeah, it sucks the driver has so much visibility in the Stryker. From that video, he only has 3 periscopes facing forward and to the sides and a forward facing IR camera. But, that's a whole other issue.

And my suggestion wasn't really aimed at getting more eyes out the rear of the Stryker. I'm more interested in the benefits for the infantry riding in the back. The current cameras are okay for regular soldiers, but some kind of situational awareness as a squad leader would be nice, too many times you'll see SL's ordering their INF squad to exit a vehicle not knowing the situation outside, or even in error when the APC stops for another reason.

Some interesting points here. Probably won't see anything in the next hotfix, but...

Doesn't look to me like there is any sort of camera for any of the infantry. An IRRC, there are no vision blocks either unlike the LAV and Bradley? So that shows that they shouldn't be there anyway.

According to these videos:





There is no camera or monitor in the rear of the vehicle. Also, would it be possible to code a live feed from the gunners camera?

This would be a much more viable alternative IMO. The ability for an infantryman to stand out the top as some already do while the Stryker is operating.

dtacs wrote:Doesn't look to me like there is any sort of camera for any of the infantry.

Maybe it could be tied to the gunners view. To simulate being able to look over their shoulder at the monitor inside the APC.

My suggestion wasn't really based on reality, I've wanted this added for a while now. That video just reinforced the idea that infantry exiting the vehicle would have just as much situational awareness as the crew of the APC. Since, their is a guy in real life who's job is to direct infantry and talk to the apc crew, look at their monitors, etc.

It isn't the infantries job to know what they're getting into. The SL and the Stryker commander do the thinking for them.

The F8 view already is pretty good, a camera behind the gun of the Stryker facing forward. I use that when my squad is getting dropped in, seems pretty good.

Well... this may not save the day all alone but looks like it would be much more useful than the the third seat of the tanks

But for sure this position should not be needing a crewman kit.